The way I understood in the cisco doc with the introduction of local route 
groups , you reduce the RP, RL etc, e.g if number of sites to call their local 
number you need one RP and one RL point towards the standard local RG , Right ?

If that's the case than a Single RL isn't going to provide redundancy until N 
unless you add all the GW in the route list ( that will work but not a clean 
solution) OR you need to create separate RP and separate RL for each site. If 
that's the case than how can you reduce the number of RP and RL in the cluster ?

Cheers
Narinder

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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Local route group question

Sure - I don't see why not.

So a Call goes out from BR1 Phone, fails on SLRG because BR1-GW is down, then 
fails again on explicit BR1-GW-RG, then goes out HQ.
Sure - should work just fine (aside from the annoying Trace logs that build up 
;-)


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On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Robert McGhee wrote:


Now how about if you want calls to 9.xxxxxxx for phones in the Device pool HQ 
to use:

RL_PSTN  -->  Option 1) Standard Local Route Group (HQ Gateway)   or    Option 
2) BR1_GW_RG

But phones in BR1's device pool to use:

 RL_PSTN  -->  Option 1) Standard Local Route Group (BR1 Gateway)   or    
Option 2) HQ_GW_RG

Could you set up a RL like this then?

RL_PSTN  -->  Option 1) Standard Local Route Group    or    Option 2) BR1_GW_RG 
  or     Option 3) HQ_GW_RG


This way you need only one route pattern but outbound call for both site will 
use its LRG first and if that's not available use the remote sites RG....

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To: c george
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Local route group question

You can configure Standard Local Route Group as a valid option for a route 
group in any order.

So for instance you could have:

HQ Route Pattern 9.xxxxxxx  -->  RL_PSTN  -->  Option 1) Standard Local Route 
Group    or    Option 2) BR1_GW_RG

Or if you like:

HQ Route Pattern 9.xxxxxxx  -->  RL_PSTN  -->  Option 1) BR1_GW_RG      or      
Option 2) Standard Local Route Group


Just depends on what you want it to do.

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On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:12 PM, c george wrote:



i beleive it is the other way around. The local group would be the 2nd choice 
not the 1st. The primary route group (gw)  would the 1st in the list.

Respectfully Charles George



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:08:15 -0400
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To: bobwmcg...@verizon.net<mailto:bobwmcg...@verizon.net>; 
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Local route group question
I'm not the expert in this, but if I understand what you are asking....

The Standard Local Route Group would be set first in your Route List and then a 
secondary option would be set in the route list.  In the event your Standard 
Local Device fails, the calls based on that route pattern would use the next 
available option.

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Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Local route group question

I've been struggling with this question and haven't been able to find a clear 
answer; can a local route group support call redundancy?  So if all pstn 
connectivity is down on a device pools local route group can calls be re-routed 
out another gateway?

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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] DHCP snooping limit rate for Voice traffic...

As noted in the CUCM SRND here: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/7x/security.html#wp1045687
Cisco doesn't set a "best practices" rule. Instead they say (and rightfully so) 
that it depends on your Security Policy.

You would really have to have more information such as:
- How many phones on the DHCP Subnet?
- How often do they renew their leases?
- Model of the switch?

All in all, as with most things in security that you wish to limit, you really 
need to establish a baseline for your own DHCP Voice traffic, and then create a 
limit slightly higher than what is "normal" DHCP traffic (in PPS).


HTH,

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On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:33 PM, SYED HUSSAIN wrote:

Hi Guys,

Can someone tell me what is the recommended DHCP snooping limit rate for Voice 
traffic?

Thanks
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