Manipulation on the H.323 gw will show up in the H.225 setup messages exchanged 
during call setup if these commands isn't put in to the gw.
voice service voip
 no supplementary-service h225-notify cid-update

Brgds,
Roger Källberg


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Från: Mark Nigh [mn...@netelligent.com]
Skickat: den 8 februari 2010 22:23
Till: scott carruthers; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Ämne: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display

Could it be that the predot on the Route Pattern is causing the RG-RL details 
not too much thus the reason to add 011 as a prefix on the dp.

Have seen where manipulation on a H.323 gateway does show up on the phone. The 
exception is num-exp, i.e. num-exp 3432143333 90113232143333

RP (9011.!, predot)->RG-RL (nothing)->H.323 GW (num-exp mentioned earlier)  -> 
will match DP as (9011!, prefix 011).


Mark Nigh
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From: scott carruthers [mailto:scarruthe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:02 PM
To: Mark Nigh; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display

Mark,

The configuration was on proctorlabs gear and is now gone but I can easily 
summarize.

Recap of goal - after user makes an international call the calling party's IP 
phone display should be updated and show 3432143333.

HQ Phone > dials 90113432143333 > hits route pattern 9011.! > within the route 
pattern I am stripping predot solely for the purpose of affecting the final 
display on the calling party phone > call is sent to a route list that contain 
a single route group that contains the HQ H.323 GW > the route list-route group 
DNIS manipulation strips predot and prefixes a 9011 - I want to send this as 
9011! to the H323 GW so that I only need a single dial peer for CM/SRST 
functionality > call is sent to the H323 GW.

In this flow I would expect the originating IP phone to show the called number 
of 3432143333 or only the manipulation thru the route pattern.  If this worked 
as I would have expected I would have met the goal.  But instead the 
originating IP phone shows 90113432143333.  I can make this work without a 
problem - I went back and took the DNIS manipulation off of the route pattern - 
had the route list manipulate it to 3432143333 - and then have a dial peer on 
the GW prefix 011.  But obviously not ideal - need another dial peer for SRST - 
and this just isn't how I expected it to function.

Again I thought the rule was the phone will only reflect the manipulation up to 
and thru the route pattern but not what is done in the route list.

Thanks
Scott

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From: mn...@netelligent.com
To: scarruthe...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:24:16 -0600
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display
Can you give us your configuration with regards to the Route Pattern and Route 
List Details? The behavior you are experiencing isn’t what I expect but rather 
what you expect is what I think I am thinking is correct, also.


Mark Nigh

From: scott carruthers [mailto:scarruthe...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:06 PM
To: Mark Nigh; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display

Mark,

No - there are no called party transforms.  This is 100% traditional call 
routing.  I do not have a single called party transform configured and this is 
intentional.  So not a matter of the called party transform trumping.

Thanks
Scott

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From: mn...@netelligent.com
To: scarruthe...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:38:12 -0600
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display
Scott,

Called Xforms will trump all and match the called number at the point of it 
matching the route pattern. Do you still have your called xform configured? If 
so, you are matching on that thus changing the display of the phone. You 
mention “no transform in play”, but wasn’t sure if that meant configured?

Mark Nigh

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of scott carruthers
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:39 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Manipulating IP Phone Called Number Display

This is the goal:

-From an HQ phone a call is placed to an international number

-The DNIS is dialed as 90113432143333

-The request is to allow the call to complete and after call completion the 
calling party's IP phone should be updated so that the access and international 
codes are stripped

-In other words - HQ places a call to 90113432143333 - once the call completes 
the HQ phone display should be updated to show the called party number as 
3432143333

-Using called party transforms on the GW this is simple to do - any 
manipulation done via the transform will be updated on the originating IP phone

-But I want a clean method of accomplishing this goal using traditional call 
routing.  So for the call placed - in my topology - I am routing the call thru 
a route pattern of 9.011! - this points to a route list in which I am stripping 
predot - no transforms in play - traditional/old school call routing only.

-What I expected to happen was the DNIS manipulation only thru the route 
pattern would affect the calling party's IP phone display.  So if left as I 
have stated thus far - the display would remain as 90113432143333.  Thus I was 
of the belief if I wanted to accomplish the task I could tweak the route 
pattern to be 9011.! - strip it predot at the route pattern - solely to affect 
the display on the IP phone - and then change the route list to strip predot at 
the route overriding what was done at the route pattern and allowing the 
correct digits to be sent to the GW.  I expected my goal would be accomplished 
with this methodology - the display would update correctly based on the 
maniplulation up to and thru the route pattern and would override those 
manipulations at the route list level for actual call routing.

-What I seemed to experience - however - was that the DNIS manipulation at the 
route list level affected the display on the calling party's phone.  So in the 
above example the IP phone would display 0113432143333 once connected and not 
3432143333 as requested.

Any thoughts?  Have others played around with manipulating the calling party's 
called number display to reflect a specific requested number of digits without 
using dialed number transforms?  The HQ GW in my example was H323 - during my 
next lab I want to see if this equation changes if it is instead MGCP and 
possibly in this scenario the changes only made thru the route pattern level 
and not thru the route list level would impact the display on the calling 
party's phone - but I wouldn't have expected there to be a difference in this 
functionality based on the signaling protocol.  I accomplished the task by - in 
this case - manipulating the DNIS to 3432143333 at the route list level and 
then dealt with the digits that would be sent to the telco on the H.323 GW but 
I am trying to ascertain if this is expected behavior and the cleanest method 
of accomplishing the task.
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