I agree with Abel. It's just that here in Brazil, employers have high expectation of a CCIE. So, let's say I memorize a dump of the exam and pass. When it comes the real deal, and you are in the middle of a kickoff meeting for a project and a question is brought up that is pretty basic and I don't know, people will start questioning about my ability as CCIE. There are things that we NEED to know and things that are forgiven when you don't. And I am not even talking about configuring phones, servers, routers, switches, I am talking about the basics that we all should know and love.
I've worked around the world (United States, Angola, Portugal, now settled in Brazil) and I've seen many CCIEs. Most of those were Routing and Switching, and a few of those didn't know the basics of RS. I am "illiterate" in Routing and Switch, but I do have a little knowledge of it and it is sad to see those CCIEs making awful sins on their own field. I am not here to judge anyone, it's not that. And I already said "nobody knows everything". But RS guys who don't know what a /25 mask mean for example, you start to wonder how that guy is a CCIE. This example was used, because it was the first that came in my mind, but of course it wasn't nothing like that. But you guys get my meaning. It's just like us in Voice, if you don't know what Partitions and CSSs are used for, you don't have the right to carry a CCNP Voice title, for example. It's just that. :) Good luck to all CCIE students. I am going back to my lab, because my exam date is right around the corner and I hope not to fail this time. *Emanuel Damasceno* CCNP Voice On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Abel ... <midga...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Experts *have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and > education* in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of > expert is well established by consensus and therefore it is not necessary > for an individual to have a professional or academic qualification for them > to be accepted as an expert. In this respect, a shepherd with 50 years of > experience tending flocks would be widely recognized as having complete > expertise in the use and training of sheep dogs and the care of sheep." > Wikipedia > > So, if you pass it with that kind of stuff... at the end what really > define you as a expert is how much time of you life you dedicated to farm > sheeps, sorry I mean type on a CLI of a router or dial a number waiting for > the desired result in a phone. Like in all the matters of life (music, > cooking, arts) there would be some less motivated people who want to be > considered as a qualified person following the easy way, but at the end, > the true professional can identify those individuals in the field. > > At the end we all used some kind of dumbs to learn, like the IPX > Workbooks, the different is, one have all the possible situation and the > other is a real scam. The choice to take the best path for a real > professional experience is defined by the people, not the difficulty of the > test. Even is the test > is set a DN to the phone, there would always looking for the easy way to > do it. > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Emanuel Damasceno > <aedamasc...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thank you for your input Pablo. >> >> I was actually say something, but I kept it to myself. Now that you have >> said something, I have to put my 2 cents as well. >> >> These guys say they have the exam, and that they didn't pass probably >> because they tried to memorize the whole exam with a bunch of dumps. >> MEMORIZING is completely different from LEARNING. >> >> The exam has to be hard. I have been there and I saw it is completely >> passable. My first attempt was a disaster and I have nobody to blame but >> myself. I underestimated the exam and paid a very steep price (money wise). >> >> All we have to do is study, know Call Routing by heart, solve problems >> quickly and also know where to find the helps on Cisco DocCD. NOBODY knows >> everything, only GOD knows. >> >> If you want to risk your money and your certifications on this, go right >> ahead and BUY those supposedly leaked exams. >> >> All these studies made me a better CCNP Voice and of course I want my >> number, but I also want to KNOWLEDGE. >> >> Always remember, NOBODY knows everything. >> >> *Emanuel Damasceno* >> CCNP Voice >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Pablo Meneses <pmenese...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I say that this in an scam again, I have been on the list for over 2 >>> years and never seen one single post of >>> "sammaxc...@gmail.com<sammaxc...@gmail.com> >>> ". >>> >>> -Pablo Meneses. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:53 PM, William Affeldt < >>> william.affe...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I would guess it is a variation of the bastard. I would not worry so >>>> much and just start saving for the next attempt. You will eventually get >>>> something that you can pass. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:17 AM, sam max <sammaxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi Guys, >>>> > >>>> > I am so so so upsad this time was my last i believe but..... cant >>>> blame anyone except myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> > >>>> > I got new lab 6 in brusels it was all changed early offer, MGCP TS, >>>> ipcc changed, i am nt sure how we can complete it in 8 hrs time. >>>> > >>>> > I am really upsad now no money for next attempt nt sure when i can go >>>> back for this, >>>> > >>>> > All the questions are comming in my eyes again and again but i was >>>> helpless >>>> > >>>> > Best of luck guys who are going next ....................... >>>> > >>>> > Regards >>>> > Sam >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>> > >>>> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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