I like this post agree 100% with you guys that's why I will not go for CCIE until I feel I deserve it On Jan 22, 2012 6:24 PM, "Emanuel Damasceno" <aedamasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with Abel. > > It's just that here in Brazil, employers have high expectation of a CCIE. > So, let's say I memorize a dump of the exam and pass. When it comes the > real deal, and you are in the middle of a kickoff meeting for a project and > a question is brought up that is pretty basic and I don't know, people will > start questioning about my ability as CCIE. There are things that we NEED > to know and things that are forgiven when you don't. And I am not even > talking about configuring phones, servers, routers, switches, I am talking > about the basics that we all should know and love. > > I've worked around the world (United States, Angola, Portugal, now settled > in Brazil) and I've seen many CCIEs. Most of those were Routing and > Switching, and a few of those didn't know the basics of RS. I am > "illiterate" in Routing and Switch, but I do have a little knowledge of it > and it is sad to see those CCIEs making awful sins on their own field. > > I am not here to judge anyone, it's not that. And I already said "nobody > knows everything". But RS guys who don't know what a /25 mask mean for > example, you start to wonder how that guy is a CCIE. This example was used, > because it was the first that came in my mind, but of course it wasn't > nothing like that. But you guys get my meaning. It's just like us in Voice, > if you don't know what Partitions and CSSs are used for, you don't have the > right to carry a CCNP Voice title, for example. It's just that. :) > > Good luck to all CCIE students. I am going back to my lab, because my exam > date is right around the corner and I hope not to fail this time. > *Emanuel Damasceno* > CCNP Voice > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Abel ... <midga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Experts *have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and >> education* in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of >> expert is well established by consensus and therefore it is not necessary >> for an individual to have a professional or academic qualification for them >> to be accepted as an expert. In this respect, a shepherd with 50 years of >> experience tending flocks would be widely recognized as having complete >> expertise in the use and training of sheep dogs and the care of sheep." >> Wikipedia >> >> So, if you pass it with that kind of stuff... at the end what really >> define you as a expert is how much time of you life you dedicated to farm >> sheeps, sorry I mean type on a CLI of a router or dial a number waiting for >> the desired result in a phone. Like in all the matters of life (music, >> cooking, arts) there would be some less motivated people who want to be >> considered as a qualified person following the easy way, but at the end, >> the true professional can identify those individuals in the field. >> >> At the end we all used some kind of dumbs to learn, like the IPX >> Workbooks, the different is, one have all the possible situation and the >> other is a real scam. The choice to take the best path for a real >> professional experience is defined by the people, not the difficulty of the >> test. Even is the test >> is set a DN to the phone, there would always looking for the easy way to >> do it. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Emanuel Damasceno <aedamasc...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Thank you for your input Pablo. >>> >>> I was actually say something, but I kept it to myself. Now that you have >>> said something, I have to put my 2 cents as well. >>> >>> These guys say they have the exam, and that they didn't pass probably >>> because they tried to memorize the whole exam with a bunch of dumps. >>> MEMORIZING is completely different from LEARNING. >>> >>> The exam has to be hard. I have been there and I saw it is completely >>> passable. My first attempt was a disaster and I have nobody to blame but >>> myself. I underestimated the exam and paid a very steep price (money wise). >>> >>> All we have to do is study, know Call Routing by heart, solve problems >>> quickly and also know where to find the helps on Cisco DocCD. NOBODY knows >>> everything, only GOD knows. >>> >>> If you want to risk your money and your certifications on this, go right >>> ahead and BUY those supposedly leaked exams. >>> >>> All these studies made me a better CCNP Voice and of course I want my >>> number, but I also want to KNOWLEDGE. >>> >>> Always remember, NOBODY knows everything. >>> >>> *Emanuel Damasceno* >>> CCNP Voice >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Pablo Meneses <pmenese...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I say that this in an scam again, I have been on the list for over 2 >>>> years and never seen one single post of >>>> "sammaxc...@gmail.com<sammaxc...@gmail.com> >>>> ". >>>> >>>> -Pablo Meneses. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:53 PM, William Affeldt < >>>> william.affe...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would guess it is a variation of the bastard. I would not worry so >>>>> much and just start saving for the next attempt. You will eventually get >>>>> something that you can pass. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:17 AM, sam max <sammaxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Hi Guys, >>>>> > >>>>> > I am so so so upsad this time was my last i believe but..... cant >>>>> blame anyone except myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>>> > >>>>> > I got new lab 6 in brusels it was all changed early offer, MGCP TS, >>>>> ipcc changed, i am nt sure how we can complete it in 8 hrs time. >>>>> > >>>>> > I am really upsad now no money for next attempt nt sure when i can >>>>> go back for this, >>>>> > >>>>> > All the questions are comming in my eyes again and again but i was >>>>> helpless >>>>> > >>>>> > Best of luck guys who are going next ....................... >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards >>>>> > Sam >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>>> > >>>>> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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