If you do not have book to questions and pass how can you... its very simple
everyone required the same i believe.
I am interested to share if anyone interested please email me so that i can
chat with you
Appreciated for the guys who is interested and can understand my pain.
I felt the same pain today after my attempt.
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From: Mohamed Hassan <mrmha...@gmail.com>
To: Emanuel Damasceno <aedamasc...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>; Pablo
Meneses <pmenese...@gmail.com>; sam max <sammaxc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 6 released ):
I like this post agree 100% with you guys that's why I will not go for CCIE
until I feel I deserve it
On Jan 22, 2012 6:24 PM, "Emanuel Damasceno" <aedamasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Abel.
>
>It's just that here in Brazil, employers have high expectation of a CCIE. So,
>let's say I memorize a dump of the exam and pass. When it comes the real deal,
>and you are in the middle of a kickoff meeting for a project and a question is
>brought up that is pretty basic and I don't know, people will start
>questioning about my ability as CCIE. There are things that we NEED to know
>and things that are forgiven when you don't. And I am not even talking about
>configuring phones, servers, routers, switches, I am talking about the basics
>that we all should know and love.
>
>I've worked around the world (United States, Angola, Portugal, now settled in
>Brazil) and I've seen many CCIEs. Most of those were Routing and Switching,
>and a few of those didn't know the basics of RS. I am "illiterate" in Routing
>and Switch, but I do have a little knowledge of it and it is sad to see those
>CCIEs making awful sins on their own field.
>
>I am not here to judge anyone, it's not that. And I already said "nobody knows
>everything". But RS guys who don't know what a /25 mask mean for example, you
>start to wonder how that guy is a CCIE. This example was used, because it was
>the first that came in my mind, but of course it wasn't nothing like that. But
>you guys get my meaning. It's just like us in Voice, if you don't know what
>Partitions and CSSs are used for, you don't have the right to carry a CCNP
>Voice title, for example. It's just that. :)
>
>Good luck to all CCIE students. I am going back to my lab, because my exam
>date is right around the corner and I hope not to fail this time.
>Emanuel Damasceno
>CCNP Voice
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Abel ... <midga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Experts have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and education
>in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of expert is well
>established by consensus and therefore it is not necessary for an individual
>to have a professional or academic qualification for them to be accepted as an
>expert. In this respect, a shepherd with 50 years of experience tending flocks
>would be widely recognized as having complete expertise in the use and
>training of sheep dogs and the care of sheep." Wikipedia
>>
>>So, if you pass it with that kind of stuff... at the end what really define
>>you as a expert is how much time of you life you dedicated to farm sheeps,
>>sorry I mean type on a CLI of a router or dial a number waiting for the
>>desired result in a phone. Like in all the matters of life (music, cooking,
>>arts) there would be some less motivated people who want to be considered as
>>a qualified person following the easy way, but at the end, the true
>>professional can identify those individuals in the field.
>>
>>At the end we all used some kind of dumbs to learn, like the IPX Workbooks,
>>the different is, one have all the possible situation and the other is a real
>>scam. The choice to take the best path for a real professional experience is
>>defined by the people, not the difficulty of the test. Even is the test
>>is set a DN to the phone, there would always looking for the easy way to do
>>it.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Emanuel Damasceno <aedamasc...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thank you for your input Pablo.
>>>
>>>I was actually say something, but I kept it to myself. Now that you have
>>>said something, I have to put my 2 cents as well.
>>>
>>>These guys say they have the exam, and that they didn't pass probably
>>>because they tried to memorize the whole exam with a bunch of dumps.
>>>MEMORIZING is completely different from LEARNING.
>>>
>>>The exam has to be hard. I have been there and I saw it is completely
>>>passable. My first attempt was a disaster and I have nobody to blame but
>>>myself. I underestimated the exam and paid a very steep price (money wise).
>>>
>>>All we have to do is study, know Call Routing by heart, solve problems
>>>quickly and also know where to find the helps on Cisco DocCD. NOBODY knows
>>>everything, only GOD knows.
>>>
>>>If you want to risk your money and your certifications on this, go right
>>>ahead and BUY those supposedly leaked exams.
>>>
>>>All these studies made me a better CCNP Voice and of course I want my
>>>number, but I also want to KNOWLEDGE.
>>>
>>>Always remember, NOBODY knows everything.
>>>
>>>Emanuel Damasceno
>>>CCNP Voice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Pablo Meneses <pmenese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I say that this in an scam again, I have been on the list for over 2 years
>>>and never seen one single post of "sammaxc...@gmail.com".
>>>>
>>>>-Pablo Meneses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:53 PM, William Affeldt
>>>><william.affe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I would guess it is a variation of the bastard. I would not worry so much
>>>>and just start saving for the next attempt. You will eventually get
>>>>something that you can pass.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:17 AM, sam max <sammaxc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am so so so upsad this time was my last i believe but..... cant blame
>>>>>> anyone except myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got new lab 6 in brusels it was all changed early offer, MGCP TS, ipcc
>>>>>> changed, i am nt sure how we can complete it in 8 hrs time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am really upsad now no money for next attempt nt sure when i can go
>>>>>> back for this,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the questions are comming in my eyes again and again but i was
>>>>>> helpless
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best of luck guys who are going next .......................
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Sam
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>>
>
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