Which parameters are not used for IOS GW?

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On Jul 11, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Robert Thomas <tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Those parameters are not used for IOS Gateways. They were used for 6608 T1 
> Cards, but have no effect on other ISR MGCP GW. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Ricardo <ricardoareval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If we need a fractional PRI we use pri-group timeslots 1-6 (or the amount of 
>> channels you will need) service mgcp. + the other MGCP commands, but no 
>> these:
>> 
>> 
>> ccm-manager config server X.X.X.X
>> ccm-manager config
>> 
>> The big BUT with this workaround: not supported by TAC.
>> 
>> I guess this option still exists in CUCM because since PRI fractionals are 
>> not officialy supported by Cisco, this would be the only "official" way to 
>> configure them. So you would use the full PRI and busy'ed them out with the 
>> maintenance channel option. However we know that only some Channels will 
>> come up, and the CUCM wont send calls to unused channels and more 
>> importantly wont report any error because those channels are in maintenance.
>> 
>> //r.a.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Karen Johnson <karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca> 
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks Ricardo,
>>>  
>>> so if we ever need fractional T1/E1 , we only need to use "pri-group 
>>> timeslots 1-6 service mgcp " on GW.
>>>  
>>> But why the :busyout B-channel  still exist in UCM service parameter ?  is 
>>> there any IOS GW that can't do above?
>>>  
>>> tks
>>> K
>>> 
>>> From: Ricardo <ricardoareval...@gmail.com>
>>> To: Karen Johnson <karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca> 
>>> Cc: Robert Thomas <tho...@gmail.com>; "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" 
>>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:30:11 AM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Change B-Channel Maintenance Status
>>> 
>>> Normally I don't post unless there is something to be said.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to say this is not old story. Cisco doesn't support fractional MGCP  
>>> PRIs, that is for both E1 and T1, and only 5 endpoints with the b-channel 
>>> maintenance status are allowed per cluster.
>>> 
>>> Please take a look at this
>>> 
>>> https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-2038 in it you will find the BUGs: 
>>> CSCed41207 and CSCdw29259.
>>> 
>>> As a workaround you can use partial configuration when defining the PRI:
>>> pri-group timeslots 1-6 service mgcp
>>> Just dont use these commands:
>>> 
>>> ccm-manager config server X.X.X.X
>>> ccm-manager config
>>> 
>>> Otherwise the CUCM will keep modifying the PRI to use all the channels, 
>>> using more DSPs than the gateway was supposed to.
>>> 
>>> Be careful. This condition still exists in real life, especially in 
>>> countries were PRI/E1 is offered.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cisco's recommendation is to use H323 instead of MGCP.
>>> //r.a.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Karen Johnson <karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca> 
>>> wrote:
>>> tks Robert and Bill.
>>>  
>>> so in exam i will leave to default and not worry on this : "busy out" if 
>>> (Inhibit re-starts at PRI initialization is checked)
>>> 
>>> From: Robert Thomas <tho...@gmail.com>
>>> To: Karen Johnson <karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca> 
>>> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:42:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Change B-Channel Maintenance Status
>>> 
>>> Karen,
>>> 
>>> Those parameters are old story. The were used back in the 6608 days, have 
>>> no use on the current MGCP GW. If you configure your PRI as fractional with 
>>> less timeslots, CUCM would audit the port and the GW report back an error 
>>> for that endpoint, CUCM will then mark it out of service automatically. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Karen Johnson <karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca> 
>>> wrote:
>>> when do MGCP, i come across service parameter "Change B-Channel Maintenance 
>>> Status" and they only have 5 box.
>>>  
>>> - does that mean in one cluster we can have 5 GW that use partial PRI with 
>>> MGCP ?
>>> - if i plan to use partial PRI in MGCP,   do i need to also "busy out " 
>>> above paramater or
>>>   "pri-group  timeslots 1-12,16 service mgcp"  command in GW is enough?
>>>  
>>> - based on UCM help page, we only need use "busy out" if (Inhibit re-starts 
>>> at PRI initialization is checked)
>>>   I just try to make sense of this statement
>>>  
>>> tks
>>> K.
>>>  
>>> 
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