Hi, I personally am not concerned as much (as I should be?) with the security - Wiki's tend to get attacked but as you point out the databases contain all the old articles and can be backed up on a regular basis.
There has been enough concern expressed to me by different folks that I took down the xtals.org/wiki, in order to avoid confusion. I would guess the biggest advantage of a truly commercial solution for this wiki is the fact that it would be managed and backed up by someone who is paid for their services. For all it's worth, I generally agree with the proponents of the more "open" approach to wiki - such as articles could be written by anyone who has a 'real name registration'. Any kind of rigorous procedure designed to select 'worthy' contributors goes against the spirit of the whole enterprise, in my opinion :) Artem > Kevin Cowtan schrieb: >> Yes, that is our intention. CCP4 would probably be at the third level of >> a hierarchy including: >> >> Macromolecular crystallographic techniques >> Structure solution, analysis and visualisation software >> The CCP4 suite > > Kevin, > > why does/will/should the CCP4 Wiki have a hierarchy at all? I thought > that the structure of the Wiki emerges from the links between the > articles. > As far as I know the MediaWiki software does not even support a > hierarchy (but of course I may be wrong, and other software might > support it). > > And why are you concerned about security? In what sense? Breakins into > the computer that runs the software, or vandalism of articles? I believe > the first point is best dealt with by setting up a virtual machine > dedicated to the Wiki, and running an OS that gets automatic security > updates for a number of years. The "vandalism" thing is probably less of > an issue than it is in Wikipedia - but even at the Wikipedia scale it > can be handled well, it seems. > > One other thing that I thought about has to do with permissions. Let me > explain. The easiest way to come up with useful articles would probably > be to just write summaries citing people's emails to the CPP4BB. Citing > Eleanor's postings alone would certainly produce a great Wiki! But - is > it appropriate/allowed to cite people's old emails to the CCP4BB on the > Wiki, without their consent? I for one would certainly give permission > to cite my earlier CCP4BB postings, provided they are cited in the > proper context. > > And finally: why is there a concern by some people about the "premature" > setup of a Wiki, like the one that was set up by Artem? If the articles > in a Wiki are good they can just be copied over to the "CCP4 Wiki" when > it exists. At least that is my understanding concerning Wikipedia > articles - you can just use them under the GNU Free Documentation License. > > thanks, > > Kay > >> >> So there would be room for other software packages at the same level as >> CCP4, and things like purification and crystallisation off of the top >> level. >> >> James Stroud wrote: >>> Would a "CCP4 wiki" be different from a general crystallography wiki? >>> Would it reflect, for instance, the breadth of topics on the CCP4BB? >>> >>> >>> On Monday 23 July 2007 09:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> Contributions from volunteers to establish and maintain the CCP4 wiki >>>> will >>>> be definitely appreciated. >>> >>> > >
