Re: [ccp4bb] 3D model building without CRT monitor

[David Roberts]

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I've had good luck with refurbished monitors off the web.  Just do a google search for a sun monitor (for example) and it should come up.  Otherwise, go to pricewatch.com and search for crt monitors there.  They may have some external case dents, but the monitors are usually crisp and last being on for at least 2-3 years.  They are all refurbished monitors.  Their cost is generally $30 for the monitor (or something ridiculously cheap) and then around $100 to ship (unfortunately).  Not a bad overall price if you want stereo. I will say, I teach a class on crystallography to undergrad students.  In the past I had SGI's, with dial boxes and stereo.  When I switched to linux, I changed to coot, and away went the dial boxes (but I do still do stereo).  In the past, students only used stereo and really liked the dial boxes.  Now, with the graphics of coot and it's fitting algorithms, the real need for stereo was nothing more than an oddity, and so they did use stereo at times but it wasn't used as much.  I do think stereo has a great purpose, especially in the education part and the final evaluation, but I'm not sure it's needed as much for the actual model building. Cheers Dave Krojer,Tobias wrote: Dear all,   recently some of our CRT monitors broke down and we realized that these monitors are no longer produced. However, we would still like to continue model building in 3D which is apparently not possible with current TFT displays. Beside the possibility of getting old CRT monitors at ebay, I was wondering how other groups solved this problem.   Thank you very much for suggestions! best wishes, Tobias         Tobias Krojer, PhD IMP (Research Institute of Molecular Pathology) Dr. Bohr-Gasse 7 1030 Vienna Austria Tel.: +43-1-797303358 Fax.: +43-1-7987153