On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:42 +0000, Ian Tickle wrote:
> I was taught 'structure amplitude' - makes perfect sense to me!  Why
> does 'structure amplitude' make any less sense than 'structure factor'?
> 
> It also clearly made sense to Phil Coppens, a crystallographer of
> considerable repute, see ITC Vol. B (2nd Ed.), sect 1.2., p.10: 'The
> Structure Factor'.  To quote the introduction to the section: "The
> 'structure factor' is the central concept in structure analysis by
> diffraction methods.  Its modulus is called the 'structure amplitude'".
> 
> Also I did a 'Google vote' for the two terms.  'Structure amplitude' has
> 11300 hits.  'Structure factor amplitude' has only 4750.  So all round I
> would say that 'structure amplitude' wins by a considerable margin.
> 

Having had a quick look at the google results myself, I think that there
is a problem is the methodology. Google doesn't take into account
punctuation when searching. So the first search includes results such as
'structure. Amplitude', where the two words are in different sentences,
or 'structure, amplitude' where the words are part of a list. Given this
case, the winning margin is likely to be less.

My preference would also be for the full 'Structure factor amplitude'.
'Structure amplitude' leaves me with visions of comparing the pdb files
of a small single domain protein and a ribosome. Two structures having
different sizes (or amplitudes).

> Cheers
> 
> -- Ian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk 
> > [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pavel Afonine
> > Sent: 11 January 2009 03:01
> > To: Ethan A Merritt
> > Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] structure (factor) amplitude
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/10/2009 5:14 PM, Ethan A Merritt wrote: 
> > 
> >     On Saturday 10 January 2009, Bernhard Rupp wrote:
> >       
> > 
> >             Dear All,
> >             
> >             I am getting conflicting comments on the use of 
> >             'structure factor amplitude'
> >             vs. just
> >             'structure amplitude'
> >             for |F|.
> >                 
> > 
> >     
> >     ???
> >     That's just... odd.
> >     
> >     |F| is the amplitude of F.
> >     But no way F is a "structure".
> >       
> > 
> > 
> > I agree. If F is a structure factor then |F| is a structure 
> > factor amplitude. "structure amplitude" doesn't make much sense...
> > Pavel.
> 
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