Hi Careina

Not sure what you mean when you say "despite unit cell dimensions being
off".  What are the cells for the monoclinic & orthorhombic indexings?  The
SRF cannot always tell you if there's higher symmetry because NCS axes may
align with crystallographic ones giving pseudo-translational NCS and
confusing the interpretation.  That's why it's important to check the native
Patterson for any peaks that could be due to translational NCS.  Can we see
the kappa=180 section of the SRF? (I don't have 100% faith in peak
searches!).

The SRF log file you posted was done in PG222, what does the plot of the
kappa=180 section in PG2 look like?

We need a bit more information!

Cheers

-- Ian


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Careina Edgooms <careinaedgo...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Dear Ian
>
> Thank you for your help.
> It is 46% solvent content for 2 monomers when I process in P21 space group.
> Because there does appear to be NCS, I guess it is accurate to say there are
> 2 monomers? Does the SRF indicate that there is perhaps a higher symmetry? I
> wonder if I should attempt to process in P222 or P212121 despite unit cell
> dimensions being off? When I do try solve 2 monomers in asymmetric unit in
> P21 I see many clashes although it refines with satisfactory R factors.
>
> Thanks again for your help
> Careina
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Careina Edgooms <careinaedgo...@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
> *Sent:* Sat, June 4, 2011 3:03:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] self rotation function
>
>
> Hi Careina
>
> 30% of the origin peak is fairly respectable.  You could probably make it
> higher by varying the high res cutoff.  You have 2 Ang: it may be that the
> NCS doesn't extend to that resolution, so making it a bit lower might
> improve the signal/noise ratio.  It would be nice to see the plot of the
> kappa=180 section, but from the log file it's clear you have a lot of NCS
> 2-folds in the ab plane (kappa=180, omega=90), so my guess would be a 222
> tetramer aligned with an NCS 2-fold parallel to the c axis.  If so this
> should give you an translational NCS peak somewhere in the z=1/2 Harker
> section of the native Patterson.  From the solvent content how many
> molecules in the a.u. do you expect?
>
> Cheers
>
> -- Ian
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Careina Edgooms 
> <careinaedgo...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear ccp4 members
>>
>> I have question about how to interpret polarrfn log. I wish to know if my
>> crystal display NCS. I am not sure how to interpret the file. I see it have
>> two peak, one is origin and the other is not that high to me. I have attach
>> copy of the file. If someone could assist me to understand the file it would
>> be appreciated.
>>
>> best
>> Careina
>>
>
>

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