Sure, we can talk about this off line.

-- Kevin

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Pius Padayatti <ppadaya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin,

> thanks.Sine this is of not much interest to many here


> please feel free to go off line in the future.
>
> The method of dialysis is confusing here.
> How can one achieve this by buffer exchange?
>
> I wonder if an extensive wash of protein on a column would work
> instead.
>
> Pius
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Kevin Jin <kevin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To Pius,
>>
>> In my case, the protein/biopolymer is Lysine/amine riched.
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>> 1. Lys or Arg are mainly positively charged under pH 7.0 ~ 8.0, and
>> then provide positively charge to LPA. Of course, some metal cations
>> could also be involved in LPA binding.
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>> 2. Tris with the NH2 group could also be protonated and positively
>> charged under the same pH condition. This is why I use high
>> concentration Tris here.
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>> 3. Tris buffer could function as an ionic-exchange competitor for LPA
>> binding. If you look those commercial available Endotoxin assay kits,
>> they also use Tris buffer.
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>> 4. IPA could change the charge distribution on the surface of protein.
>> In usual, high% IPA could remove LPA efficiently but may cause protein
>> denature. In lot of cases, 5~10% IPA could help protein
>> crystallization to a larger size. As a tradeoff, it may also bring
>> down the packing quality.
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>> In this case, I used it for endotoxin  removal.
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>> 5. NaCl (you can try other salt) would provide additional ion-strength
>> to Interfere (or weak) the ionic-paring between Lys/Arg and LPA.
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>> 6. If you can add EDTA to remove metal cation, it may be even better.
>> In my case, I could not use EDTA.
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>> I tested the sample (1600EU/ml). After 3 days dialysis, it went down
>> to < 5EU/ml.  The assay kit for LPA measurement was from Charles River
>> (?). The procedure is too long to present here. The good thing is that
>> your sample would not be dehydrated and refold again.
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>> I am saying this will work for protein in all of case, but you try in
>> an eppendorf tube like amini-prep.
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>> I guess this method may have been  patented.
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>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Pius Padayatti <ppadaya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is in response to a comment to this thread
>>> Kevin,
>>> Could you explain how that worked?
>>> How do you know your method worked?
>>> Did you estimate the lipopolysaccharide before and after the method?
>>>
>>> The method already mentioned here to wash using TritonX100 makes sense.
>>> by washing bound protein sample May able to phase separate into
>>> detergent micellar phase and get rid of endotoxins.
>>>
>>> Most widely accepted method to separate is by two phase micellar system.
>>> above the CMC endotoxins will be accomodated by micelles through non-polar
>>> interactions of alkyl chains of lipidA.
>>>
>>> Padayatti PS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry McCully
>>> <for-crystallizai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>o
>>>>
>>>> Dear All;
>>>>
>>>>         We purified a His tag protein by Ni-NTA and gel-filtration from
>>>> E.coli.
>>>>
>>>>          We tried two endotoxin removal resins from Pierce. However, it is
>>>> hard to remove the endotoxins in the purified protein because the protein
>>>> bound to the resin as well.
>>>>
>>>>          This protein contains quite a few aromatic residues and has a pI
>>>> around 6.
>>>>
>>>>          Any ideas to remove the endotoxins will be highly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>         best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jerry McCully
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Pius S Padayatti,PhD,
>>> Phone: 216-658-4528
>
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> Pius S Padayatti,PhD,
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