s: An alternative way to avoid the argument and discussion all together
is to use "cryo-cooled".
Tim: You go to a restaurant, spend all that time and money and order a
fruitcake?
Cheers,
N.
On 11/15/2012 11:59 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:
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Dear s,
I have heard this discussion before and reminds me of people claiming
strawberries were nuts - which botanically may be correct, but would
still not make me complain about strawberries in a fruit cake I
ordered at a restaurant.
My Pengiun English Dictionary states (amongst other explanations)
freeze: "to make extremely cold", so as long as you think your article
is written in English, you did not say anything wrong, assuming your
readers are intelligent enough to understand what you are trying to
say - and in a crystallographic article, the process of 'freezing'
your crystal is most likely not your main point where you need to be
100% unambiguous.
Cheers,
Tim
On 11/15/2012 06:13 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
Hi folks, I have recently received a comment on a paper, in which
referee #1 (excellent referee, btw!) commented like this:
"crystals were vitrified rather than frozen."
These were crystals grew in ca. 2.5 M sodium malonate, directly dip
in liquid nitrogen prior to data collection at 100 K. We stated in
the methods section that crystals were "frozen in liquid nitrogen",
as I always did.
After a little googling it looks like I've always been wrong, and
what we are always doing is doing is actually vitrifying the
crystals. Should I always use this statement, from now on, or are
there english/physics subtleties that I'm not grasping?
Thanks a lot, ciao, s
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen
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