Dear Patrick,

Of course this is the best-first choice!
I got confused with the names in my previous email. I was reffering to Chen
when I mentioned the screens.

Kindly,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Olga Moroz <olga.mo...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

> MMS (microseed matrix screening) into several screens, as Patrick
> suggested earlier, would be the first choice for me.
> Works very often.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Olga
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2017, at 08:48, Frank von Delft <frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> The point I was failing to make:  reducing either protein or precipitant
> concentration will indeed reduce nucleation, but often won't get you bigger
> or more single crystals:  it will just make the appearance of crystals less
> reliable.
>
> The way to get big single reliable crystals is to *increase* protein and
> *greatly* reduce precipitant.
>
> (Even better:  do seeding.  Like Vicky said.  Incredible how often people
> don't bother to do seeding, yet it solves so many problems.)
>
> phx
>
>
> On 12/07/2017 07:50, Vicky Tsirkone wrote:
>
> Dear Frank,
>
> I may see in the attached pic several nucleation points and a considerable
> amount of microcrystals. Based to my knowledge decreasing the concentration
> of the precipitant and/or the protein concentration would be a reasonable
> approach to refine the initial hits.
> By checking the diagram as you correctly mentioned you may see that the
> fine tuning of protein and precipitant concetration may lead to the
> desirable result without reaching the precipitation zone.
>
> Patrick just check your screens. Just a rule of thumb, if you see
> precipitation in the ~60% of your drops then you should definitely reduce
> the protein concentration.
>
> ps dont forget to try the *streak seeding*, as well.
>
> Have a nice day and again good luck.
>
> Vicky
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Frank von Delft <
> frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Actually, you should try *increasing* the protein concentration - a
>> lot.  But be prepared to drop the precipitant concentration to almost
>> nothing (1 or 2% isn't "low").
>>
>> To understand why, look at the phase diagram and what we assume about
>> vapour diffusion.  (Which I'm assuming is what you're doing.)
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 06:28, Vicky Tsirkone wrote:
>>
>> Dear Patrick,
>>
>> You may reduce the protein concentation, as well.
>> Another option could be the *streak seeding* by exploiting the drop of
>> your initial condition.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> V.T.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Patrick Shaw Stewart <
>> patr...@douglas.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Microseed them into two or three random screens.
>>>
>>> Search for MMS and rMMS online.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 July 2017 at 15:47, Liuqing Chen <519198...@163.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello everyone!
>>>> I get a condition (10% w/v PEG 6000, 100mm HEPES PH7.0) in which my
>>>> protein grow small  needle like crystals, how can i optimize it to get
>>>> bigger crystals?  the attach is the crystals  figure.
>>>> thanks in advance
>>>> sincerely
>>>> Liuqing Chen
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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