Oyong, This is not a good day for you. Your post offers nothing new. No substance. Just a rehash of your accusation that I am a shill for the Democrats. Yes, I am offering the Democrats' position. I'm a lifelong Democrat. Dyed in the wool.
If you really wanted to contribute to the discussion, you should have offered counterpoints, rebuttals against the points I raised. Instead, you agreed with me that your guy, Trump, is rotten to the core. But, in your opinion he is still a better alternative than Hillary. Care to explain why he would be a better president and commander-in-chief than Hillary despite what to you are his obvious glaring faults? Your post offered nothing of substance on why Trump should be our next president. Go ahead, I'm listening. Cesar L On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:05 AM, 'Aquilino Alcantara' via Center for Good Governance <[email protected]> wrote: > why is it, especially in this presidential election, the first and most > prominent arguments are why one particular candidate is not fit to be > president ... then at the very end they will sneak in a reason why another > candidate is better to be the president ... > > I have seen and heard this especially in the republican debates and > questions posed to candidates and even in the democratic debates ... they > first answer questions and issues by saying why trump should not be the > president before they answer why they should be the one ... > > I find that very strange ... the need to lift ones stature requires to put > down another ... > ------------------------- > if you are not scared in what is happening with the relationship of > muslims with other people around the world, then you are entitled to your > own opinion and stand ... as I am entitled to my own fears ... > -------------------------- > each one of us will have our own opinion as to what we think the primary > role of govt: be it the president, congress, or judicial branches ... and > based on our opinion we would be looking for candidates whose narrative > fits ours ... > > each candidate will have so many things they will bring to the table ... > and we will assess each issue accordingly and vote who has the most > narrative that fits ours ... > -------------------------- > in all my posts, I have stated that in my opinion the primary role of govt > is to protect and defend the freedom, the right to life, liberty and > pursuit of happiness of ALL its people ... not just latinos, not just > minorities, not just muslims, not just catholics, not just women, not just > ... but ALL ...and the govt should protect and defend such way of life not > only from its enemies but from each other as well ... > > and any policy that endangers such way of life must be reviewed, halted or > stopped permanently ... > ------------------- > this email obviously points to the current events at orlando ... re > muslims, mass murders, and gun control ... > > all of a sudden this became an important issue? ... why because it > happened ... before they talked about so many things: free this free that > ... protect women ... etc... > -------------------------- > we all got an email regarding terror events that all seem to have one > common denominator: muslim background ... no one seems to have refuted > that email ... > > if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, moves like a duck, how can > watching out for a duck be racist or profiling? ... > > maybe I am giving too much credit to the presidential candidates esp trump > ... that his statement re banning muslim immigrants has to do with as he > said: stopping it until we know what we are doing? ... bringing in legally > or otherwise, people that may endanger the way of life of american and its > people > -------------------- > yes, we can only do so much about mass murders ... in fact, it seems to be > the FBI that dropped the ball on this one on closing the books on this guy > ... maybe they should keep those books open ... > ------------------- > yes I agree, certain gun control is in order ... I agree that assault > weapons should be banned ... but I guarantee you if one wants one, and > badly enough, someone will offer it for sale and will be able to get one > ------------------ > yes people are resonating to trump as they did in 2008 when someone with > no experience, no accomplishments, offered hope and change and got elected > twice ... they are willing to take a chance now on someone who is not in > the establishment ... who promises not to be the same old same old ... will > have to wait and see if ever we will see one who will keep their promises > ... > --------------------- > > vote your conscience accordingly ... your country needs it ... > > balc > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> > *To:* World-Wide Fil Alliance <[email protected]>; > HS59LaSalle <[email protected]>; Archersnook < > [email protected]>; "[email protected]" < > [email protected]>; 62ndforum <[email protected]>; Augusto > Jamora <[email protected]>; CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:25 AM > *Subject:* Trump's Hate Agenda > > Republican presidential candidate Trump's reaction to the carnage in > Orlando, while predictable, is still jarring in its utter lack of > credibility and utility. Here is a guy who is aspiring to become the free > world's leader in about seven months, when he is inaugurated as the > President of the United States should he win the election in November. > > He doesn't have a clue on what he can say and not say as a potential world > leader. He is yakking that he is right about his plan to ban Muslims from > entering the United States in the future should he become president. More > than one billion Muslims in the world - banned from entering the U.S. if > Trump becomes president. How many Muslims have been responsible for the > murder of innocents in the U.S.? No more than fifty. Out of more than 1 > billion. > > How many home-grown, non-Muslim terrorists and serial killers responsible > for mass murders in the U.S.? Many more than the Muslims. > > The fact is, you can't prevent mass murders. Insanity will always be with > us. Mentally unstable people will snap and commit mass murder. People who > are ultra-religious will snap and commit mass murder. If you don't believe > this, examine the backgrounds of those who murder abortion doctors. Many > of those are born-again Christians. Do we call born-again Christians > terrorists because of those murders? > > How does society protect against such people, knowing that it cannot > protect against all of them, but as Hillary Clinton has said, society can > protect against some and therefore save lives? > > 1. *Through better investigating techniques.* The guy who murdered > innocents in the Pulse night club in Orlando had been investigated by the > FBI twice in 2013, but the FBI found nothing and did not continue its > surveillance. The FBI was ineffective. Hillary is right: the FBI must do > a much better job. > > 2. *An assault rifle ban must be in effect immediately.* A campaign > against the NRA (National Rifle Association), which opposes the ban, must > be a part of the Hillary campaign for president. > > Trump says that if there is a ban against the sale of assault weapons, > only the criminals and crazies will have assault weapons. This is total > nonsense. Criminals and crazies buy their assault weapons shortly before > they commit their mass murders. If they cannot buy the weapons, what will > they use? Glocks? They won't be able to kill as many. > > And has there ever been a case where the innocents were able to prevent > the mass killings because the innocents also had assault weapons? Trump > says the solution is to arm the innocents with assault weapons so they can > defend themselves. Who would give kids money to buy assault weapons so > they can take those weapons along with them when they have fun in a night > club? Imagine kids toting assault weapons in the streets, in churches, in > restaurants. Everyone with an assault weapon walking around in parks, in > schools, in government buildings, in buses and taxis. > > This is the world that Trump envisions. Trump says private citizens must > have the capability to buy assault weapons because they need those weapons > to protect themselves against the terrorists and mass murderers. > > So much for that insanity. > > I suggest that private individuals who already own assault weapons must be > prohibited from selling such weapons to private individuals and groups > without an official permit from the ATF to conduct the sale. > > All existing assault weapons in the hands of private individuals and > groups must be registered with the ATF, like cars are registered each year > in the state where they are located. This is to make sure that the weapons > are still in possession of those who originally bought them. > > And Trump must shut up about President Obama. He insinuates that Obama is > a secret Muslim because Obama can't utter the term "radical Islamic > terrorism." Trump is absolutely incapable of projecting himself as a > responsible leader. Imagine if Trump as president starts to call the > Muslim terrorists as a part of the larger Radical Islamic Terrorism. The > whole Islamic world would react with more hatred for Americans because what > the term suggests is that there is a movement within the Islamic religion > that is radicalized and is terrorist. > > The international Islamic community rejects the tactics of the terrorists > in their midst and are fighting great wars against ISIS, or ISIL, or Dash. > Before that the Islamic community fought Al Qaida. They are also fighting > the Taliban. > > The Islamic community denies that the terrorists in their midst are > Islamic. They are not Islamic, according to the Muslims, just as the IRA > in Ireland, though made up of Catholics, did not represent Catholic > teachings. There is no place in Islam for people who use that religion to > commit mass murder, according to those who practice that religion. > > No responsible world leader calls the terrorists Radical Islamic > Terrorists. Why would Obama be the first one to do that? > > As private individuals, we can have the opinion that there is in fact a > faction of the Islamic world that is terrorist. And we can say that - > privately. But for a leader of a country, especially the United States, to > say that, it would lead to a real war with the 1 billion Muslims, most of > whom are disowning the terrorists in their midst. > > The fact that Obama recognizes that the world's Muslims have a right to a > good name for their religion means that Obama is a Muslim, according to > Trump. When one defends the rights of African-Americans, does that make > one a black man or woman? When one argues for the rights of women to > better pay and better treatment, does that make one a woman? When one > argues that gays have a right to exist and do whatever it is they want to > do when they are together, does that make one gay? > > Trump's logic is child-like. It's really a wonder that he is now the > presumptive nominee for president of one of the two major political parties > in the U.S. The Republican voters today should have their heads examined. > They have nominated a man who very likely descended from the same branch of > the Germanic nation that thinks of itself as the superior race who can > bully everyone that the nation happens to hate. His hate speech is > reminiscent of another leader who comes from that Germanic nation: Hitler. > > Cesar L > > PS Before the Trumps became Trump, they were the Drumpfs, U.S. immigrants > from Germany. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Center for Good Governance" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Center for Good Governance" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Center for Good Governance" group. 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