Ok, any size suggestion?  Can I get a 120 and be ok?  I see I can get
DCS3500 120GB for within $120/drive so it's possible to get 6 of them...

-Tony

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky <and...@arhont.com>
wrote:

>
> I would not use a single ssd for 5 osds. I would recommend the 3-4 osds
> max per ssd or you will get the bottleneck on the ssd side.
>
> I've had a reasonable experience with Intel 520 ssds (which are not
> produced anymore). I've found Samsung 840 Pro to be horrible!
>
> Otherwise, it seems that everyone here recommends the DC3500 or DC3700 and
> it has the best wear per $ ratio out of all the drives.
>
> Andrei
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Tony Harris" <neth...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Christian Balzer" <ch...@gol.com>
> *Cc: *ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, 1 March, 2015 4:19:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [ceph-users] SSD selection
>
>
> Well, although I have 7 now per node, you make a good point and I'm in a
> position where I can either increase to 8 and split 4/4 and have 2 ssds, or
> reduce to 5 and use a single osd per node (the system is not in production
> yet).
>
> Do all the DC lines have caps in them or just the DC s line?
>
> -Tony
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:42:35 -0600 Tony Harris wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have a small cluster together and it's running fairly well (3 nodes,
>> 21
>> > osds).  I'm looking to improve the write performance a bit though, which
>> > I was hoping that using SSDs for journals would do.  But, I was
>> wondering
>> > what people had as recommendations for SSDs to act as journal drives.
>> > If I read the docs on ceph.com correctly, I'll need 2 ssds per node
>> > (with 7 drives in each node, I think the recommendation was 1ssd per 4-5
>> > drives?) so I'm looking for drives that will work well without breaking
>> > the bank for where I work (I'll probably have to purchase them myself
>> > and donate, so my budget is somewhat small).  Any suggestions?  I'd
>> > prefer one that can finish its write in a power outage case, the only
>> > one I know of off hand is the intel dcs3700 I think, but at $300 it's
>> > WAY above my affordability range.
>>
>> Firstly, an uneven number of OSDs (HDDs) per node will bite you in the
>> proverbial behind down the road when combined with journal SSDs, as one of
>> those SSDs will wear our faster than the other.
>>
>> Secondly, how many SSDs you need is basically a trade-off between price,
>> performance, endurance and limiting failure impact.
>>
>> I have cluster where I used 4 100GB DC S3700s with 8 HDD OSDs, optimizing
>> the write paths and IOPS and failure domain, but not the sequential speed
>> or cost.
>>
>> Depending on what your write load is and the expected lifetime of this
>> cluster, you might be able to get away with DC S3500s or even better the
>> new DC S3610s.
>> Keep in mind that buying a cheap, low endurance SSD now might cost you
>> more down the road if you have to replace it after a year (TBW/$).
>>
>> All the cheap alternatives to DC level SSDs tend to wear out too fast,
>> have no powercaps and tend to have unpredictable (caused by garbage
>> collection) and steadily decreasing performance.
>>
>> Christian
>> --
>> Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
>> ch...@gol.com           Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications
>> http://www.gol.com/
>>
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