One realm is called public with a zonegroup called public-zg with a zone
for each datacenter.  The second realm is called internal with a zonegroup
called internal-zg with a zone for each datacenter.  they each have their
own rgw's and load balancers.  The needs of our public facing rgw's and
load balancers vs internal use ones was different enough that we split them
up completely.  We also have a local realm that does not use multisite and
a 4th realm called QA that mimics the public realm as much as possible for
staging configuration stages for the rgw daemons.  All 4 realms have their
own buckets, users, etc and that is all working fine.  For all of the
radosgw-admin commands I am using the proper identifiers to make sure that
each datacenter and realm are running commands on exactly what I expect
them to (--rgw-realm=public --rgw-zonegroup=public-zg --rgw-zone=public-dc1
--source-zone=public-dc2).

The data sync issue was in the internal realm but running a data sync init
and kickstarting the rgw daemons in each datacenter fixed the data
discrepancies (I'm thinking it had something to do with a power failure a
few months back that I just noticed recently).  The metadata sync issue is
in the public realm.  I have no idea what is causing this to not sync
properly since running a `metadata sync init` catches it back up to the
primary zone, but then it doesn't receive any new users created after that.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <yeh...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:44 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ok, I've been testing, investigating, researching, etc for the last week
> and
> > I don't have any problems with data syncing.  The clients on one side are
> > creating multipart objects while the multisite sync is creating them as
> > whole objects and one of the datacenters is slower at cleaning up the
> shadow
> > files.  That's the big discrepancy between object counts in the pools
> > between datacenters.  I created a tool that goes through for each bucket
> in
> > a realm and does a recursive listing of all objects in it for both
> > datacenters and compares the 2 lists for any differences.  The data is
> > definitely in sync between the 2 datacenters down to the modified time
> and
> > byte of each file in s3.
> >
> > The metadata is still not syncing for the other realm, though.  If I run
> > `metadata sync init` then the second datacenter will catch up with all of
> > the new users, but until I do that newly created users on the primary
> side
> > don't exist on the secondary side.  `metadata sync status`, `sync
> status`,
> > `metadata sync run` (only left running for 30 minutes before I ctrl+c
> it),
> > etc don't show any problems... but the new users just don't exist on the
> > secondary side until I run `metadata sync init`.  I created a new bucket
> > with the new user and the bucket shows up in the second datacenter, but
> no
> > objects because the objects don't have a valid owner.
> >
> > Thank you all for the help with the data sync issue.  You pushed me into
> > good directions.  Does anyone have any insight as to what is preventing
> the
> > metadata from syncing in the other realm?  I have 2 realms being sync
> using
> > multi-site and it's only 1 of them that isn't getting the metadata
> across.
> > As far as I can tell it is configured identically.
>
> What do you mean you have two realms? Zones and zonegroups need to
> exist in the same realm in order for meta and data sync to happen
> correctly. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
>
> Yehuda
>
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:46 PM David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> All of the messages from sync error list are listed below.  The number
> on
> >> the left is how many times the error message is found.
> >>
> >>    1811                     "message": "failed to sync bucket instance:
> >> (16) Device or resource busy"
> >>       7                     "message": "failed to sync bucket instance:
> >> (5) Input\/output error"
> >>      65                     "message": "failed to sync object"
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:00 AM Orit Wasserman <owass...@redhat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:33 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The vast majority of the sync error list is "failed to sync bucket
> >>>> instance: (16) Device or resource busy".  I can't find anything on
> Google
> >>>> about this error message in relation to Ceph.  Does anyone have any
> idea
> >>>> what this means? and/or how to fix it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Those are intermediate errors resulting from several radosgw trying to
> >>> acquire the same sync log shard lease. It doesn't effect the sync
> progress.
> >>> Are there any other errors?
> >>>
> >>> Orit
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:48 PM Casey Bodley <cbod...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The 'data sync init' command won't touch any actual object data, no.
> >>>>> Resetting the data sync status will just cause a zone to restart a
> full sync
> >>>>> of the --source-zone's data changes log. This log only lists which
> >>>>> buckets/shards have changes in them, which causes radosgw to
> consider them
> >>>>> for bucket sync. So while the command may silence the warnings about
> data
> >>>>> shards being behind, it's unlikely to resolve the issue with missing
> objects
> >>>>> in those buckets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When data sync is behind for an extended period of time, it's usually
> >>>>> because it's stuck retrying previous bucket sync failures. The 'sync
> error
> >>>>> list' may help narrow down where those failures are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is also a 'bucket sync init' command to clear the bucket sync
> >>>>> status. Following that with a 'bucket sync run' should restart a
> full sync
> >>>>> on the bucket, pulling in any new objects that are present on the
> >>>>> source-zone. I'm afraid that those commands haven't seen a lot of
> polish or
> >>>>> testing, however.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Casey
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 08/24/2017 04:15 PM, David Turner wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apparently the data shards that are behind go in both directions, but
> >>>>> only one zone is aware of the problem.  Each cluster has objects in
> their
> >>>>> data pool that the other doesn't have.  I'm thinking about
> initiating a
> >>>>> `data sync init` on both sides (one at a time) to get them back on
> the same
> >>>>> page.  Does anyone know if that command will overwrite any local
> data that
> >>>>> the zone has that the other doesn't if you run `data sync init` on
> it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After restarting the 2 RGW daemons on the second site again,
> >>>>>> everything caught up on the metadata sync.  Is there something
> about having
> >>>>>> 2 RGW daemons on each side of the multisite that might be causing
> an issue
> >>>>>> with the sync getting stale?  I have another realm set up the same
> way that
> >>>>>> is having a hard time with its data shards being behind.  I haven't
> told
> >>>>>> them to resync, but yesterday I noticed 90 shards were behind.
> It's caught
> >>>>>> back up to only 17 shards behind, but the oldest change not applied
> is 2
> >>>>>> months old and no order of restarting RGW daemons is helping to
> resolve
> >>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:59 AM David Turner <
> drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a RGW Multisite 10.2.7 set up for bi-directional syncing.
> >>>>>>> This has been operational for 5 months and working fine.  I
> recently created
> >>>>>>> a new user on the master zone, used that user to create a bucket,
> and put in
> >>>>>>> a public-acl object in there.  The Bucket created on the second
> site, but
> >>>>>>> the user did not and the object errors out complaining about the
> access_key
> >>>>>>> not existing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That led me to think that the metadata isn't syncing, while bucket
> >>>>>>> and data both are.  I've also confirmed that data is syncing for
> other
> >>>>>>> buckets as well in both directions. The sync status from the
> second site was
> >>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   metadata sync syncing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0/64 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 64/64 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 metadata is caught up with master
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       data sync source: f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sync status leads me to think that the second site believes it is
> up
> >>>>>>> to date, even though it is missing a freshly created user.  I
> restarted all
> >>>>>>> of the rgw daemons for the zonegroup, but it didn't trigger
> anything to fix
> >>>>>>> the missing user in the second site.  I did some googling and
> found the sync
> >>>>>>> init commands mentioned in a few ML posts and used metadata sync
> init and
> >>>>>>> now have this as the sync status.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   metadata sync preparing for full sync
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 64/64 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0 entries to sync
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 0/64 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 metadata is behind on 70 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                 oldest incremental change not applied: 2017-03-01
> >>>>>>> 21:13:43.0.126971s
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       data sync source: f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It definitely triggered a fresh sync and told it to forget about
> what
> >>>>>>> it's previously applied as the date of the oldest change not
> applied is the
> >>>>>>> day we initially set up multisite for this zone.  The problem is
> that was
> >>>>>>> over 12 hours ago and the sync stat hasn't caught up on any shards
> yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions other than blast the second site
> and
> >>>>>>> set it back up with a fresh start (the only option I can think of
> at this
> >>>>>>> point)?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>> David Turner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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