I sent the output of all of the files including the logs to you.  Thank you
for your help so far.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:48 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <yeh...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:37 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure I'm using the cluster admin user/keyring.  Is there any
> > output that would be helpful?  Period, zonegroup get, etc?
>
>  - radosgw-admin period get
>  - radosgw-admin zone list
>  - radosgw-admin zonegroup list
>
> For each zone, zonegroup in result:
>  - radosgw-admin zone get --rgw-zone=<zone>
>  - radosgw-admin zonegroup get --rgw-zonegroup=<zonegroup>
>
>  - rados lspools
>
> Also, create a user with --debug-rgw=20 --debug-ms=1, need to look at the
> log.
>
> Yehuda
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:27 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <yeh...@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:02 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I created a test user named 'ice' and then used it to create a bucket
> >> > named
> >> > ice.  The bucket ice can be found in the second dc, but not the user.
> >> > `mdlog list` showed ice for the bucket, but not for the user.  I
> >> > performed
> >> > the same test in the internal realm and it showed the user and bucket
> >> > both
> >> > in `mdlog list`.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Maybe your radosgw-admin command is running with a ceph user that
> >> doesn't have permissions to write to the log pool? (probably not,
> >> because you are able to run the sync init commands).
> >> Another very slim explanation would be if you had for some reason
> >> overlapping zones configuration that shared some of the config but not
> >> all of it, having radosgw running against the correct one and
> >> radosgw-admin against the bad one. I don't think it's the second
> >> option.
> >>
> >> Yehuda
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <
> yeh...@redhat.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:04 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > One realm is called public with a zonegroup called public-zg with a
> >> >> > zone
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > each datacenter.  The second realm is called internal with a
> >> >> > zonegroup
> >> >> > called internal-zg with a zone for each datacenter.  they each have
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > own rgw's and load balancers.  The needs of our public facing rgw's
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > load
> >> >> > balancers vs internal use ones was different enough that we split
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > up
> >> >> > completely.  We also have a local realm that does not use multisite
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > 4th realm called QA that mimics the public realm as much as
> possible
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > staging configuration stages for the rgw daemons.  All 4 realms
> have
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > own buckets, users, etc and that is all working fine.  For all of
> the
> >> >> > radosgw-admin commands I am using the proper identifiers to make
> sure
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > each datacenter and realm are running commands on exactly what I
> >> >> > expect
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > to (--rgw-realm=public --rgw-zonegroup=public-zg
> >> >> > --rgw-zone=public-dc1
> >> >> > --source-zone=public-dc2).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The data sync issue was in the internal realm but running a data
> sync
> >> >> > init
> >> >> > and kickstarting the rgw daemons in each datacenter fixed the data
> >> >> > discrepancies (I'm thinking it had something to do with a power
> >> >> > failure
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > few months back that I just noticed recently).  The metadata sync
> >> >> > issue
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > in the public realm.  I have no idea what is causing this to not
> sync
> >> >> > properly since running a `metadata sync init` catches it back up to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > primary zone, but then it doesn't receive any new users created
> after
> >> >> > that.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds like an issue with the metadata log in the primary master
> zone.
> >> >> Not sure what could go wrong there, but maybe the master zone doesn't
> >> >> know that it is a master zone, or it's set to not log metadata. Or
> >> >> maybe there's a problem when the secondary is trying to fetch the
> >> >> metadata log. Maybe some kind of # of shards mismatch (though not
> >> >> likely).
> >> >> Try to see if the master logs any changes: should use the
> >> >> 'radosgw-admin mdlog list' command.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yehuda
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub
> >> >> > <yeh...@redhat.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:44 PM, David Turner <
> drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Ok, I've been testing, investigating, researching, etc for the
> >> >> >> > last
> >> >> >> > week
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > I don't have any problems with data syncing.  The clients on one
> >> >> >> > side
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > creating multipart objects while the multisite sync is creating
> >> >> >> > them
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > whole objects and one of the datacenters is slower at cleaning
> up
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > shadow
> >> >> >> > files.  That's the big discrepancy between object counts in the
> >> >> >> > pools
> >> >> >> > between datacenters.  I created a tool that goes through for
> each
> >> >> >> > bucket
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > a realm and does a recursive listing of all objects in it for
> both
> >> >> >> > datacenters and compares the 2 lists for any differences.  The
> >> >> >> > data
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > definitely in sync between the 2 datacenters down to the
> modified
> >> >> >> > time
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > byte of each file in s3.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The metadata is still not syncing for the other realm, though.
> If
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > run
> >> >> >> > `metadata sync init` then the second datacenter will catch up
> with
> >> >> >> > all
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the new users, but until I do that newly created users on the
> >> >> >> > primary
> >> >> >> > side
> >> >> >> > don't exist on the secondary side.  `metadata sync status`,
> `sync
> >> >> >> > status`,
> >> >> >> > `metadata sync run` (only left running for 30 minutes before I
> >> >> >> > ctrl+c
> >> >> >> > it),
> >> >> >> > etc don't show any problems... but the new users just don't
> exist
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > secondary side until I run `metadata sync init`.  I created a
> new
> >> >> >> > bucket
> >> >> >> > with the new user and the bucket shows up in the second
> >> >> >> > datacenter,
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > objects because the objects don't have a valid owner.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you all for the help with the data sync issue.  You pushed
> >> >> >> > me
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > good directions.  Does anyone have any insight as to what is
> >> >> >> > preventing
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > metadata from syncing in the other realm?  I have 2 realms being
> >> >> >> > sync
> >> >> >> > using
> >> >> >> > multi-site and it's only 1 of them that isn't getting the
> metadata
> >> >> >> > across.
> >> >> >> > As far as I can tell it is configured identically.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What do you mean you have two realms? Zones and zonegroups need to
> >> >> >> exist in the same realm in order for meta and data sync to happen
> >> >> >> correctly. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yehuda
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:46 PM David Turner
> >> >> >> > <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> All of the messages from sync error list are listed below.  The
> >> >> >> >> number
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> the left is how many times the error message is found.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>    1811                     "message": "failed to sync bucket
> >> >> >> >> instance:
> >> >> >> >> (16) Device or resource busy"
> >> >> >> >>       7                     "message": "failed to sync bucket
> >> >> >> >> instance:
> >> >> >> >> (5) Input\/output error"
> >> >> >> >>      65                     "message": "failed to sync object"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:00 AM Orit Wasserman
> >> >> >> >> <owass...@redhat.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Hi David,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:33 PM, David Turner
> >> >> >> >>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> The vast majority of the sync error list is "failed to sync
> >> >> >> >>>> bucket
> >> >> >> >>>> instance: (16) Device or resource busy".  I can't find
> anything
> >> >> >> >>>> on
> >> >> >> >>>> Google
> >> >> >> >>>> about this error message in relation to Ceph.  Does anyone
> have
> >> >> >> >>>> any
> >> >> >> >>>> idea
> >> >> >> >>>> what this means? and/or how to fix it?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Those are intermediate errors resulting from several radosgw
> >> >> >> >>> trying
> >> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >> >>> acquire the same sync log shard lease. It doesn't effect the
> >> >> >> >>> sync
> >> >> >> >>> progress.
> >> >> >> >>> Are there any other errors?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Orit
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:48 PM Casey Bodley
> >> >> >> >>>> <cbod...@redhat.com>
> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Hi David,
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> The 'data sync init' command won't touch any actual object
> >> >> >> >>>>> data,
> >> >> >> >>>>> no.
> >> >> >> >>>>> Resetting the data sync status will just cause a zone to
> >> >> >> >>>>> restart
> >> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >> >>>>> full sync
> >> >> >> >>>>> of the --source-zone's data changes log. This log only lists
> >> >> >> >>>>> which
> >> >> >> >>>>> buckets/shards have changes in them, which causes radosgw to
> >> >> >> >>>>> consider them
> >> >> >> >>>>> for bucket sync. So while the command may silence the
> warnings
> >> >> >> >>>>> about
> >> >> >> >>>>> data
> >> >> >> >>>>> shards being behind, it's unlikely to resolve the issue with
> >> >> >> >>>>> missing
> >> >> >> >>>>> objects
> >> >> >> >>>>> in those buckets.
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> When data sync is behind for an extended period of time,
> it's
> >> >> >> >>>>> usually
> >> >> >> >>>>> because it's stuck retrying previous bucket sync failures.
> The
> >> >> >> >>>>> 'sync
> >> >> >> >>>>> error
> >> >> >> >>>>> list' may help narrow down where those failures are.
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> There is also a 'bucket sync init' command to clear the
> bucket
> >> >> >> >>>>> sync
> >> >> >> >>>>> status. Following that with a 'bucket sync run' should
> restart
> >> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >> >>>>> full sync
> >> >> >> >>>>> on the bucket, pulling in any new objects that are present
> on
> >> >> >> >>>>> the
> >> >> >> >>>>> source-zone. I'm afraid that those commands haven't seen a
> lot
> >> >> >> >>>>> of
> >> >> >> >>>>> polish or
> >> >> >> >>>>> testing, however.
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Casey
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> On 08/24/2017 04:15 PM, David Turner wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Apparently the data shards that are behind go in both
> >> >> >> >>>>> directions,
> >> >> >> >>>>> but
> >> >> >> >>>>> only one zone is aware of the problem.  Each cluster has
> >> >> >> >>>>> objects
> >> >> >> >>>>> in
> >> >> >> >>>>> their
> >> >> >> >>>>> data pool that the other doesn't have.  I'm thinking about
> >> >> >> >>>>> initiating a
> >> >> >> >>>>> `data sync init` on both sides (one at a time) to get them
> >> >> >> >>>>> back
> >> >> >> >>>>> on
> >> >> >> >>>>> the same
> >> >> >> >>>>> page.  Does anyone know if that command will overwrite any
> >> >> >> >>>>> local
> >> >> >> >>>>> data that
> >> >> >> >>>>> the zone has that the other doesn't if you run `data sync
> >> >> >> >>>>> init`
> >> >> >> >>>>> on
> >> >> >> >>>>> it?
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM David Turner
> >> >> >> >>>>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> After restarting the 2 RGW daemons on the second site
> again,
> >> >> >> >>>>>> everything caught up on the metadata sync.  Is there
> >> >> >> >>>>>> something
> >> >> >> >>>>>> about having
> >> >> >> >>>>>> 2 RGW daemons on each side of the multisite that might be
> >> >> >> >>>>>> causing
> >> >> >> >>>>>> an issue
> >> >> >> >>>>>> with the sync getting stale?  I have another realm set up
> the
> >> >> >> >>>>>> same
> >> >> >> >>>>>> way that
> >> >> >> >>>>>> is having a hard time with its data shards being behind.  I
> >> >> >> >>>>>> haven't
> >> >> >> >>>>>> told
> >> >> >> >>>>>> them to resync, but yesterday I noticed 90 shards were
> >> >> >> >>>>>> behind.
> >> >> >> >>>>>> It's caught
> >> >> >> >>>>>> back up to only 17 shards behind, but the oldest change not
> >> >> >> >>>>>> applied
> >> >> >> >>>>>> is 2
> >> >> >> >>>>>> months old and no order of restarting RGW daemons is
> helping
> >> >> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >> >> >>>>>> resolve
> >> >> >> >>>>>> this.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:59 AM David Turner
> >> >> >> >>>>>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> I have a RGW Multisite 10.2.7 set up for bi-directional
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> syncing.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> This has been operational for 5 months and working fine.
> I
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> recently created
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> a new user on the master zone, used that user to create a
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> bucket,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and put in
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> a public-acl object in there.  The Bucket created on the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> second
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> site, but
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the user did not and the object errors out complaining
> about
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> access_key
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> not existing.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> That led me to think that the metadata isn't syncing,
> while
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> bucket
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and data both are.  I've also confirmed that data is
> syncing
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> for
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> other
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> buckets as well in both directions. The sync status from
> the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> second site was
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> this.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>   metadata sync syncing
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0/64 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 64/64 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 metadata is caught up with master
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>       data sync source:
> f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Sync status leads me to think that the second site
> believes
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> it
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> is
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> up
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to date, even though it is missing a freshly created user.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> I
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restarted all
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> of the rgw daemons for the zonegroup, but it didn't
> trigger
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> anything to fix
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the missing user in the second site.  I did some googling
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> found the sync
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> init commands mentioned in a few ML posts and used
> metadata
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> sync
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> init and
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> now have this as the sync status.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>   metadata sync preparing for full sync
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 64/64 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0 entries to sync
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 0/64 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 metadata is behind on 70 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                 oldest incremental change not applied:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2017-03-01
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 21:13:43.0.126971s
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>       data sync source:
> f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> It definitely triggered a fresh sync and told it to forget
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> about
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> what
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> it's previously applied as the date of the oldest change
> not
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> applied is the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> day we initially set up multisite for this zone.  The
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> problem
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> is
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> that was
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> over 12 hours ago and the sync stat hasn't caught up on
> any
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> shards
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> yet.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions other than blast the
> second
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> site
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> set it back up with a fresh start (the only option I can
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> think
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> at this
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> point)?
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Thank you,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> David Turner
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
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