I'm pretty sure I'm using the cluster admin user/keyring.  Is there any
output that would be helpful?  Period, zonegroup get, etc?

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:27 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <yeh...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:02 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I created a test user named 'ice' and then used it to create a bucket
> named
> > ice.  The bucket ice can be found in the second dc, but not the user.
> > `mdlog list` showed ice for the bucket, but not for the user.  I
> performed
> > the same test in the internal realm and it showed the user and bucket
> both
> > in `mdlog list`.
> >
>
> Maybe your radosgw-admin command is running with a ceph user that
> doesn't have permissions to write to the log pool? (probably not,
> because you are able to run the sync init commands).
> Another very slim explanation would be if you had for some reason
> overlapping zones configuration that shared some of the config but not
> all of it, having radosgw running against the correct one and
> radosgw-admin against the bad one. I don't think it's the second
> option.
>
> Yehuda
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <yeh...@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:04 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > One realm is called public with a zonegroup called public-zg with a
> zone
> >> > for
> >> > each datacenter.  The second realm is called internal with a zonegroup
> >> > called internal-zg with a zone for each datacenter.  they each have
> >> > their
> >> > own rgw's and load balancers.  The needs of our public facing rgw's
> and
> >> > load
> >> > balancers vs internal use ones was different enough that we split them
> >> > up
> >> > completely.  We also have a local realm that does not use multisite
> and
> >> > a
> >> > 4th realm called QA that mimics the public realm as much as possible
> for
> >> > staging configuration stages for the rgw daemons.  All 4 realms have
> >> > their
> >> > own buckets, users, etc and that is all working fine.  For all of the
> >> > radosgw-admin commands I am using the proper identifiers to make sure
> >> > that
> >> > each datacenter and realm are running commands on exactly what I
> expect
> >> > them
> >> > to (--rgw-realm=public --rgw-zonegroup=public-zg --rgw-zone=public-dc1
> >> > --source-zone=public-dc2).
> >> >
> >> > The data sync issue was in the internal realm but running a data sync
> >> > init
> >> > and kickstarting the rgw daemons in each datacenter fixed the data
> >> > discrepancies (I'm thinking it had something to do with a power
> failure
> >> > a
> >> > few months back that I just noticed recently).  The metadata sync
> issue
> >> > is
> >> > in the public realm.  I have no idea what is causing this to not sync
> >> > properly since running a `metadata sync init` catches it back up to
> the
> >> > primary zone, but then it doesn't receive any new users created after
> >> > that.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Sounds like an issue with the metadata log in the primary master zone.
> >> Not sure what could go wrong there, but maybe the master zone doesn't
> >> know that it is a master zone, or it's set to not log metadata. Or
> >> maybe there's a problem when the secondary is trying to fetch the
> >> metadata log. Maybe some kind of # of shards mismatch (though not
> >> likely).
> >> Try to see if the master logs any changes: should use the
> >> 'radosgw-admin mdlog list' command.
> >>
> >> Yehuda
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM Yehuda Sadeh-Weinraub <
> yeh...@redhat.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:44 PM, David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Ok, I've been testing, investigating, researching, etc for the last
> >> >> > week
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > I don't have any problems with data syncing.  The clients on one
> side
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > creating multipart objects while the multisite sync is creating
> them
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > whole objects and one of the datacenters is slower at cleaning up
> the
> >> >> > shadow
> >> >> > files.  That's the big discrepancy between object counts in the
> pools
> >> >> > between datacenters.  I created a tool that goes through for each
> >> >> > bucket
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > a realm and does a recursive listing of all objects in it for both
> >> >> > datacenters and compares the 2 lists for any differences.  The data
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > definitely in sync between the 2 datacenters down to the modified
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > byte of each file in s3.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The metadata is still not syncing for the other realm, though.  If
> I
> >> >> > run
> >> >> > `metadata sync init` then the second datacenter will catch up with
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the new users, but until I do that newly created users on the
> primary
> >> >> > side
> >> >> > don't exist on the secondary side.  `metadata sync status`, `sync
> >> >> > status`,
> >> >> > `metadata sync run` (only left running for 30 minutes before I
> ctrl+c
> >> >> > it),
> >> >> > etc don't show any problems... but the new users just don't exist
> on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > secondary side until I run `metadata sync init`.  I created a new
> >> >> > bucket
> >> >> > with the new user and the bucket shows up in the second datacenter,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > objects because the objects don't have a valid owner.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you all for the help with the data sync issue.  You pushed me
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > good directions.  Does anyone have any insight as to what is
> >> >> > preventing
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > metadata from syncing in the other realm?  I have 2 realms being
> sync
> >> >> > using
> >> >> > multi-site and it's only 1 of them that isn't getting the metadata
> >> >> > across.
> >> >> > As far as I can tell it is configured identically.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean you have two realms? Zones and zonegroups need to
> >> >> exist in the same realm in order for meta and data sync to happen
> >> >> correctly. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yehuda
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:46 PM David Turner <
> drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> All of the messages from sync error list are listed below.  The
> >> >> >> number
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> the left is how many times the error message is found.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>    1811                     "message": "failed to sync bucket
> >> >> >> instance:
> >> >> >> (16) Device or resource busy"
> >> >> >>       7                     "message": "failed to sync bucket
> >> >> >> instance:
> >> >> >> (5) Input\/output error"
> >> >> >>      65                     "message": "failed to sync object"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:00 AM Orit Wasserman
> >> >> >> <owass...@redhat.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Hi David,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:33 PM, David Turner
> >> >> >>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The vast majority of the sync error list is "failed to sync
> bucket
> >> >> >>>> instance: (16) Device or resource busy".  I can't find anything
> on
> >> >> >>>> Google
> >> >> >>>> about this error message in relation to Ceph.  Does anyone have
> >> >> >>>> any
> >> >> >>>> idea
> >> >> >>>> what this means? and/or how to fix it?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Those are intermediate errors resulting from several radosgw
> trying
> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >>> acquire the same sync log shard lease. It doesn't effect the sync
> >> >> >>> progress.
> >> >> >>> Are there any other errors?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Orit
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:48 PM Casey Bodley <
> cbod...@redhat.com>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Hi David,
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> The 'data sync init' command won't touch any actual object
> data,
> >> >> >>>>> no.
> >> >> >>>>> Resetting the data sync status will just cause a zone to
> restart
> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >>>>> full sync
> >> >> >>>>> of the --source-zone's data changes log. This log only lists
> >> >> >>>>> which
> >> >> >>>>> buckets/shards have changes in them, which causes radosgw to
> >> >> >>>>> consider them
> >> >> >>>>> for bucket sync. So while the command may silence the warnings
> >> >> >>>>> about
> >> >> >>>>> data
> >> >> >>>>> shards being behind, it's unlikely to resolve the issue with
> >> >> >>>>> missing
> >> >> >>>>> objects
> >> >> >>>>> in those buckets.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> When data sync is behind for an extended period of time, it's
> >> >> >>>>> usually
> >> >> >>>>> because it's stuck retrying previous bucket sync failures. The
> >> >> >>>>> 'sync
> >> >> >>>>> error
> >> >> >>>>> list' may help narrow down where those failures are.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> There is also a 'bucket sync init' command to clear the bucket
> >> >> >>>>> sync
> >> >> >>>>> status. Following that with a 'bucket sync run' should restart
> a
> >> >> >>>>> full sync
> >> >> >>>>> on the bucket, pulling in any new objects that are present on
> the
> >> >> >>>>> source-zone. I'm afraid that those commands haven't seen a lot
> of
> >> >> >>>>> polish or
> >> >> >>>>> testing, however.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Casey
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On 08/24/2017 04:15 PM, David Turner wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Apparently the data shards that are behind go in both
> directions,
> >> >> >>>>> but
> >> >> >>>>> only one zone is aware of the problem.  Each cluster has
> objects
> >> >> >>>>> in
> >> >> >>>>> their
> >> >> >>>>> data pool that the other doesn't have.  I'm thinking about
> >> >> >>>>> initiating a
> >> >> >>>>> `data sync init` on both sides (one at a time) to get them back
> >> >> >>>>> on
> >> >> >>>>> the same
> >> >> >>>>> page.  Does anyone know if that command will overwrite any
> local
> >> >> >>>>> data that
> >> >> >>>>> the zone has that the other doesn't if you run `data sync init`
> >> >> >>>>> on
> >> >> >>>>> it?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM David Turner
> >> >> >>>>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> After restarting the 2 RGW daemons on the second site again,
> >> >> >>>>>> everything caught up on the metadata sync.  Is there something
> >> >> >>>>>> about having
> >> >> >>>>>> 2 RGW daemons on each side of the multisite that might be
> >> >> >>>>>> causing
> >> >> >>>>>> an issue
> >> >> >>>>>> with the sync getting stale?  I have another realm set up the
> >> >> >>>>>> same
> >> >> >>>>>> way that
> >> >> >>>>>> is having a hard time with its data shards being behind.  I
> >> >> >>>>>> haven't
> >> >> >>>>>> told
> >> >> >>>>>> them to resync, but yesterday I noticed 90 shards were behind.
> >> >> >>>>>> It's caught
> >> >> >>>>>> back up to only 17 shards behind, but the oldest change not
> >> >> >>>>>> applied
> >> >> >>>>>> is 2
> >> >> >>>>>> months old and no order of restarting RGW daemons is helping
> to
> >> >> >>>>>> resolve
> >> >> >>>>>> this.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:59 AM David Turner
> >> >> >>>>>> <drakonst...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I have a RGW Multisite 10.2.7 set up for bi-directional
> >> >> >>>>>>> syncing.
> >> >> >>>>>>> This has been operational for 5 months and working fine.  I
> >> >> >>>>>>> recently created
> >> >> >>>>>>> a new user on the master zone, used that user to create a
> >> >> >>>>>>> bucket,
> >> >> >>>>>>> and put in
> >> >> >>>>>>> a public-acl object in there.  The Bucket created on the
> second
> >> >> >>>>>>> site, but
> >> >> >>>>>>> the user did not and the object errors out complaining about
> >> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>>>> access_key
> >> >> >>>>>>> not existing.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> That led me to think that the metadata isn't syncing, while
> >> >> >>>>>>> bucket
> >> >> >>>>>>> and data both are.  I've also confirmed that data is syncing
> >> >> >>>>>>> for
> >> >> >>>>>>> other
> >> >> >>>>>>> buckets as well in both directions. The sync status from the
> >> >> >>>>>>> second site was
> >> >> >>>>>>> this.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>   metadata sync syncing
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0/64 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 64/64 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 metadata is caught up with master
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>       data sync source: f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >> >> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Sync status leads me to think that the second site believes
> it
> >> >> >>>>>>> is
> >> >> >>>>>>> up
> >> >> >>>>>>> to date, even though it is missing a freshly created user.  I
> >> >> >>>>>>> restarted all
> >> >> >>>>>>> of the rgw daemons for the zonegroup, but it didn't trigger
> >> >> >>>>>>> anything to fix
> >> >> >>>>>>> the missing user in the second site.  I did some googling and
> >> >> >>>>>>> found the sync
> >> >> >>>>>>> init commands mentioned in a few ML posts and used metadata
> >> >> >>>>>>> sync
> >> >> >>>>>>> init and
> >> >> >>>>>>> now have this as the sync status.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>   metadata sync preparing for full sync
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 64/64 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 full sync: 0 entries to sync
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 incremental sync: 0/64 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 metadata is behind on 70 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                 oldest incremental change not applied:
> >> >> >>>>>>> 2017-03-01
> >> >> >>>>>>> 21:13:43.0.126971s
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>       data sync source: f4c12327-4721-47c9-a365-86332d84c227
> >> >> >>>>>>> (public-atl01)
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         syncing
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         full sync: 0/128 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         incremental sync: 128/128 shards
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>                         data is caught up with source
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> It definitely triggered a fresh sync and told it to forget
> >> >> >>>>>>> about
> >> >> >>>>>>> what
> >> >> >>>>>>> it's previously applied as the date of the oldest change not
> >> >> >>>>>>> applied is the
> >> >> >>>>>>> day we initially set up multisite for this zone.  The problem
> >> >> >>>>>>> is
> >> >> >>>>>>> that was
> >> >> >>>>>>> over 12 hours ago and the sync stat hasn't caught up on any
> >> >> >>>>>>> shards
> >> >> >>>>>>> yet.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions other than blast the second
> >> >> >>>>>>> site
> >> >> >>>>>>> and
> >> >> >>>>>>> set it back up with a fresh start (the only option I can
> think
> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >>>>>>> at this
> >> >> >>>>>>> point)?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Thank you,
> >> >> >>>>>>> David Turner
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
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