An editorial in today's Tampa Tribune mentions how the Kyoto protocol
requires reducing emissions levels to a percentage of those seen in 1990.
In 1990, Germany had just been reunified and had huge emissions from the
former East German industries, Britain had significantly higher emissions
than they do now, and the US had lower than normal emissions because of a
recession. According to the editorial, some estimates are that it would
cost the USA as much as $400 billion in lost GDP, while most of the rest of
the world gets to sit back and watch.
If all of that is true, it really would be a slam dunk on the USA.
Reducing CO2 emissions would be great, but right now I'd be satisfied if
the guys I work with would just turn the faucets all the way off after they
wash their hands.
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"Dave Fobare"
<editor@the-sports To: CF-Community
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Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
07/26/2001 12:54
PM
Please respond to
cf-community
>The treaty (or at least a modified version of it) was ratified this week
by
>178 countries, not too absurd by my reckoning.
Do you comprehend the difference between "signed" and "ratified"? Once
again, not one EU signatory to Kyoto '97 actually ratified it. This is
because the people who negotiated the agreement had little understanding of
political realities in the U.S., the EU, and elsewhere. Well, probably some
did, and simply saw Kyoto '97 as a stepping stone to bigger and better
things.
And the "modified" version now being tossed around contains no penalties
for treaty members who miss emissions targets/goals. In other words, it
doesn't really do anything, except provide a fig leaf for the
unelected(largely) bureaucrats who devoted so much time to Kyoto.
Dave Fobare
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Fobare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
>
>
> >
> > Absurd: Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable.
> >
> > By that standard, the 1997 Kyoto protocol was indeed absurd.
> >
> > In the U.S., Clinton would not even submit the treaty to the Senate for
> > ratification. Kyoto's most prominent U.S. backer, Al Gore, studiously
> > avoided any mention of Kyoto during his campaign for president. Not a
> > single EU signatory actually ratified Kyoto, even though the Kyoto
accord
> > was largely the result of EU-based enviros.
> >
> > And all of this could be and *was* predicted by many political
observers
>at
> > the birth of the Kyoto agreement. Without commenting the contents of
>Kyoto,
> > any treaty this unsuccessful could only be called absurd.
> >
> > Certainly, one cannot say that George Bush "pulled out" of Kyoto. The
U.S.
> > was never *in* Kyoto. Bush simply commented upon the obvious.
> >
> > Dave Fobare
> >
> > At 07:46 PM 7/25/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Why absurd?
> > >
> > >This week, every country in the world - I will repeat that - EVERY
>country
> > >apart from the US signed a new environment treaty, that combined with
the
> > >refusal to get involved with the Germ Warfare agreement because of
> > >"commercial interests" is giving Bush an extremely poor image
worldwide.
> > >
> > >I won't even start on the son of star wars, lets just hope that the UK
> > >government refuses to let our country be used for it.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Dave Fobare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:18 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Have you folks seen that Bush has pulled out of yet another
>agreement?
> > > > >First Kyoto and now one that would ban Germ Warfare.
> > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/25/germ.treaty/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Actually, the Senate shut the door on Kyoto with a 95-0 vote in
1997,
> > >after
> > > > which Clinton refused to even submit the absurd accord for formal
> > >ratification.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Fobare
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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