Then another company would have come along and done the same thing. You surely cannot all assume that if Microsoft didn't exist, then we wouldn't have moved anywhere?? Of course we would.... all the same software, more or less, would have been developed... it would have taken another company.. Caldera after there DR-DOS days possibly, to have taken other peoples innovations and wrap a window manager wround the back of it.
You just don't know what could have happened, because any competitor to MS got annihalted before MS even really started. IBM and Caldera both had DOS tools out, the other attempt at a windows GUI that appeared around the days of Windows 1 too (that I can't remember the name of).... Mac OS was available, Unix was available, and soon came OS2... they were all there.... all potentials.. and if any one of them played dirty, forced it onto every PC, and then put the marketing bucks in, any one of them would be as well of as MS are now... yes even Unix!! To think that computers wouldn't have taken off as much as they have without MS is completely naive, IMHO. There were many alternatives, that in the same position as MS would have been just as good. And even more to think of..... if MS hadn't played dirty, but played fairly.... we may even have been in a completely BETTER position. Maybe competition would have forced companies to release solid, stable products. Personally... I'd probably still be doing the same thing that I am today, regardless of whether MS had been around or not. I was working with computers before MS existed... and I think we'd be in a pretty similar, maybe better, maybe not, but a very similar place without them. N On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:27, you wrote: > Lets speculate what we would be doing and with what tools if we completely > removed Microsoft from the picture. > > > > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS! > > right on... MS is a marketing machine... > > to suceed in business you don't go and reinvent the wheel.. MS has been > bad to some companies undoubtedly and they should repent... But without > their push and marketing I doubt things would be what they are today... > the world without Microsoft would be what?? > > IBM OS2??? Linux, which still isn't useable by your mother's > standards... etc... > > Heck I remember Trumpet... I remember not wanting to convert to Windows > back then and running Desqview to multitask :) > > MS is to bringing the computer to people as Apple is to bringing the > computer to designers :) > > -paris > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] > [connecting people, places and things] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:57:31 +1000 > Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS! > > > I have never said that MS made anything, they stole ideas and rewrote > > stuff, but they put it out there, marketed it, and people bought it. > > Before > > that there were products that nobody knew about. > > > > >>You are aware of "FrontPage". Vermeer first developed the product, > > > > ahead of its time back then, Microsoft was so impressed they bought > > the > > company and started screwing with it. > > > > I remember Trumpet, it was a pain in the ass, but it worked after you > > figured it out. > > > > >>Many people didn't even bother to licence (license?) Trumpet (still > > > > at > > http://www.trumpet.com.au/) and the developers had many high profile > > law > > suits against companies like OzEmail for illegally distributing its > > product. > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > * > > > > This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) > > and may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If > > you are > > not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use or > > dissemination > > of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received > > this > > transmission in error, please notify the ANZFA IT helpdesk prior to > > deleting > > all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. > > > > ANZFA helpdesk: > > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > > > www.mimesweeper.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
