Charlie,
Please read what Dana is responding too before commenting.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:31 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay

  you disagree with what?  Dana never said Cheney mentioned her -more-.
  Dana said Cheney 'introduced' her to the public.  So what exactly
  about Dana's statement is it you're disagreeing with?

  > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:00:58 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > > Kerry has mentioned her more than Dick has.  Sorry, I disagree.

  > >   -----Original Message-----
  > >   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > >   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:33 PM
  > >   To: CF-Community
  > >   Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay
  > >
  > >   Andy
  > >
  > >   Her own father has already brought her into the poitical arena. At
  > >   that point she ceased to be a private person and became an extension
  > >   of her father's public persona.
  > >
  > >   Dana
  > >
  > >   On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:18:43 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
  > >   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >   > I disagree strongly with the author and all of you who say that
Kerry can
  > >   > mention Mary in any context he wants.  It is in poor taste for Kerry
to
  > > keep
  > >   > using Mary's name and sexual orientation unless he has her
permission,
  > > which
  > >   > I
  > >   > doubt.  He has no right to bring up her religion, method of dress,
nada.
  > > It
  > >   > has nothing to do with her sexual orientation, and everything to do
with
  > > her
  > >   > privacy.
  > >   >
  > >   > Andy
  > >   >
  > >   >
  > >   >
  > >   > -----Original Message-----
  > >   > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > >   > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:40 PM
  > >   > To: CF-Community
  > >   > Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay
  > >   >
  > >   >   Because the administration, of whom this girls father is a major
figure,
  > >   >   supports a constitutional amendment to specifically marginalize a
  > >   >   certain group of the population, of whom this girl is a
not-so-secret
  > >   >   member.  Pointing out rank hypocrisies is par for the course,
  > > politically.
  > >   >
  > >   >   Andrew Sullivan had a very good observation on the different
reactions
  > >   >   to Kerry's remark last night.  I'd just be parroting his points by
  > >   >   reiterating them, so here's the links if you want to read them.
  > >   >
  > >   >   http://tinyurl.com/6sz59
  > >   >
  > >   >   In a nutshell, Kerry didn't do anything scurrilous, and the gasps
of
  > >   >   horror from conservatives is another telling indicator of rank
  > > homophobia.
  > >   >
  > >   >   - Jim
  > >   >
  > >   >   Sam Morris wrote:
  > >   >
  > >   >   >Surprised nobodies mentioned this.
  > >   >   >
  > >   >   >Why do the Johns keep outing this girl?
  > >   >   >
  > >   >   >-sm
  > >   >   >
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