him what you want to. However unless he's going to a bible college, I
don't expect he'll be doing all that well at intro to biology in his
freshman year.
Besides the evidence for the progressive change in allele frequency
(which is another definition of evolution) is too strong for it not to
be a mere theory. The evidence that we evolved from an ancestral ape
is also too strong to ignore or to discount. It happened, and it is
happening. We are the result.
larry
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:44:13 -0400, Matthew Small
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, you don't have to believe in faith that God made the universe and
> everything in it. You should not have to learn that in school. Then again,
> why should a Christian boy have to learn that some scientists think that man
> came from apes? Because there's a theory in place that we have some
> evidence of occurring in other species? Because it does not involve a
> higher being? Belief in one or the other is an act of faith either way. I
> choose to believe that I can see the power and beauty of an invisible God
> that made everything and draws us close together. You choose to believe that
> rolling a ball down the street proves that an invisible force made the earth
> what it is and draws us close together. Either way, you can draw a
> conclusion based on what you've observed and what people who came before you
> have observed. Faith is not a word that is applied only in religion.
>
>
> - Matt Small
>
> _____
>
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Here we go again....
>
>
> But Won, there is a huge difference here. Faith is not REQUIRED for me to
> believe the scientists. If it is scientifically proveable, then I could
> obtain the necessary knowledge whereby I could conduct the experiment
> myself, verify it, and eliminate the need for faith.
>
> I may take on faith that the scientist correctly followed scientific logic
> (since i'm lazy :), but i do NOT have to take the underlying scientific
> logic on faith.
>
> Do you see the distinction?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Won Lee
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again....
>
> <snip>
>
> And Brian,
>
> Yes a scientific fact is a scientific fact. But again, look at it from
> your personal point of view. Someone proves something and gives you a
> manner in which to prove it. Except the proof is beyond your
> comprehension. You are free to try to re-produce the solution but ability
>
> prevents you from doing so. But let's say 1,000, no let's make it 1
> Million, leading scientists all verify the solution and agree that the
> solution is correct. What are you going to do? You going to believe
> them? If you do, you can't tell me that is not faith. You have a belief
> or a faith that the proof is correct based on the expertise and agreement
> on those scientist.
>
> Like I said this faith my subtle differ from the faith that is used by
> religious organizations but it is faith. It's faith in the system. It's
> faith in the scientist. It's faith on something that you can not fully
> comprehend.
>
> _____
>
>
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