Much to my consternation :) I am on Sam's side here. The site is hardly fluff. It contains 22 separate videos and links to quite a number of thoughtful pieces on the very real issues this case presents to Catholic teaching. There are also links to articles in the secular media, some, I grant you, to WorldNet, but not all of them... there court documents are there and so is the timeline. It's a very cogent argument.
I do see your bmj link but it's ten years old and you know what, half the medical tests I have had the past couple of months are for things discovered since then - factor v leiden to give one example. I turn out to not have any of them, which is good, but it's also good that I don't have an ex who determines what they test me for! Maybe that'd the heart of my issue here. It's been less than three months since I was told that I might be on oxygen the rest of my life. It turned out the be two more days....medical understanding is an elusive thing and I am inclined to err on the side of allowing life. Here is another take on the whole thing, a link from the "nonsubstantive" site :) http://www.notdeadyet.org/ Dana On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:48:50 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lets see if I can put it in small enough words for you to understand. > > The 5 court appointed neurologists agreed that Ms. Shaivo was in a > persistent vegetative state. The AMA and BMA treatement guidelines > state that no recovery is possible if this state lasts more than a > year (AMA says 3 months). Ms. Shaivo has been in this state for 10 > years. There is only a body left that is steadily deteriorating (sorry > falling apart). No matter how long that body lives there is nothing > left in the brain. She will be like what she is for now on. > > As for the starvation, that is the only legal way to do it, look up > withholding of treatment. US law forbids more active measures. In > Shaivo's case it would be more humane to give an overdose of a > tranquilizer, but that is not allowed. > > As for that web site, I see its up to your usual fine standards of > veracity and quality. Lots of ranting fluff and almost nothing > involving facts. > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:33:37 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tell him that's not true. > > > > Since Feb '93 they've been trying to remove him as guardian. Terri was > > awarded $1.4 million from a malpractice lawsuit that goes to her > > medical care. If she dies her husband inherits what's left, about $1 > > million. > > > > Ironically, Michael Schiavo never mentioned her so called wishes until > > after the monetary award. Since then he's been trying to kill her. > > > > Also, he's been living with his fiance for ten years and has two kids with > > her. > > > > Main concern is they want to kill her by starvation. She's not on life > > support. > > > > Lot's of stuff. > > http://www.terrisfight.org/ > > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:38 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > about a month or two ago? Christmastime? I suppose I could have > > > misunderstood, but I don't think so.... > > > > > > If they are not willing to pay for her care, the issue in my mind is > > > somewhat different. To be blunt, if we are talking public health > > > dollars, then the issue of triage perhaps should apply, especially if > > > the matter is as hopeless as Larry says it is. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Dreamweaver with Homesite Plus from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=54 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144772 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
