I have to say that I have been following the debate on the Patriot Act
on C-SPAN and have been very impressed with the testimony of the ACLU.

Dana

On 5/8/05, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do what I did a few years back.  Join the ACLU:
> 
> http://www.aclu.org
> 
> (a ColdFusion site, by the way).
> 
> It doesn't matter whether you're conservative, liberal, or all over the
> political map.  The bottom line is that they are the *only* resource with
> any power that will come to your aid when you are on the side of the
> Constitution and the big boys are stepping all over it (and you, too).
> 
> They've had their hands full since 9/11 trying to prevent abuses in the name
> of "feel-good" yet illegal (and entirely ineffective) legislation being
> passed, and they need our help to try to fight this legislation that makes
> us vulnerable to attacks from our own government.
> 
> I highly encourage all of you to join today, right now.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Member of Team Macromedia
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:32 AM
> Subject: Amerikanski, show me your papers!
> 
> > So, you won't even know when your ID information is being read. You
> > won't even know your information is being given out.These were the
> > huge fears about the system, and why it previously failed to pass.
> > AFAIK, these issues have not been addressed.
> >
> > Does anyone know whether ID cards in the UK are like this? We have ID
> > cards in Trinidad, but they are physical cards that must be shown just
> > a like a driver's license that we get from..well..as soon as we are
> > old enough. It is not electronic, it can't be read electronically. If
> > something requires two forms of identification you are free to use
> > that, your driver's license, or your passport.
> >
> > Good luck Amerikanskis...(0_0)
> >
> > "News.com is running a story about the RealID Card legislation that's
> > been attached to emergency military spending bills to ensure its
> > passage. How soon does everyone think this system will be abused
> > either by the government or by thieves ? The worst part is the
> > completely machine-readable/automatic nature of the thing -- you might
> > not even know you're giving your information away."
> >
> > >From the article:
> > "Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United
> > States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an
> > airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or
> > take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking,
> > your driver's license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal
> > standards."
> >
> >
> 
> 

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