On 6/30/05, loathe wrote:
> Tell me I don't know what I am talking about Sam!!  Tell me about losing
> people, for what?  In non-armored humvees.  Tell me why that largest air
> base in Afghanistan doesn't have a counter battery radar to respond to
> indirect fire, after you look up what that means.

If you were following along you'd know that whenever Gruss uses
numbers they're usually made up or he overheard them somewhere. I have
no idea if what he said was true or made up. Looking for something to
back it up.
As I said "Do they need to be at the same levels they were at before
the Taliban fell?"

Why are you so obnoxious?

> > By studying do you really mean, "Believe the biased Pew polls"?
> 
> Have you traveled internationally in the last few years?  I have, and not
> only for the Army, but going to Europe for the State Dept.  Ask an Italian
> off the street what they think of our policies sometime.

Yes I have and Have, same as here it depends on whom you ask. Ever
been to France? They never liked Americans or anyone else for that
matter.
 
> > > Yes, the dumb ones die, are replaced by 2 more and the smart ones pass
> > > along the technology to Bin Laden.
> >
> > Are you saying that in war only the dumb ones die? That's an extremely
> > obnoxious thing to say and I hope you apologize for it.
> 
> It's called lessons learned.  Your force learns TTPs (Tactics, Techniques
> and Procedures).  You get better and better at what you're doing.

Unless you die and that means you're dumb? You of all people should be
upset with that statement.

> Really?  It's the same people doing the same sort of security operations.
> State, CIA, FBI, HS, all these different federal agencies running force
> protection ops around the world, all running from the same play book.  You
> don't think they might notice a pattern in there somewhere?

Are you seriously comparing the streets of Baghdad with NYC or LA. Am
I missing something?
 
> > We would have won Kennedy's Vietnam War if it weren't for Fonda, Kerry
> > and people like you.
> 
> Or we could have pushed the soviets into a corner and caused WW 3.  You
> can't back up a statement like that.

Yeah I can:
Davis Hanson from the September 2003 American Legion Magazine:

Gen. Giap, in a series of postbellum interviews, confessed that the
North Vietnamese were ready to cease aggression under the weight of
the 1972 and 1973 bombing campaigns. He then directly associated the
reprieve with the welcome efforts of the radical antiwar movement.
Indeed he told French television that his most important guerrilla
ally during the war was the American press. The Vietnam News Agency as
early as 1966 wrote "We praise the American peace champions. The
movement of the American people to protest the war of aggression has
really become the second front against the U.S. imperialists." Another
communist official, Bui Tinh, claimed that Fonda's Hanoi visits, press
releases and much publicized photo-ops in enemy batteries had helped
the communists "to hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

> What about Indonesia?  What about the Philippines?  What about the Sudan,
> Afghanistan, Saudi, Egypt, Yemen?  Are we going to invade everyone?

Aren't we in Afghanistan?
Hopefully these countries will change their ways.

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