Heretic. Burn him.

that said you need to read the books to really understand how it hangs
together. Also remember Tolkien was writing as one of the most
significant folklorists/linguists/experts at dark ages and medieval
English at the time. Almost everything in LOTR has a basis in that.
The Ents are fundamental part of the fabric of the story. Tolkien's
commentaries and other works confirm it.

As for the damned - that was the only way they could gain rest was
fulfilling their oath. They could not die until then because Isildur
cursed them when they refused to participate in the earlier Ring war 2
or 3 thousand years before. The only way they could fulfill their own
was to respond to the summons of Isildur's heir.

Generally I am disappointed that Jackson did not include either Tom
Bombadil or the Scouring of the Shire. I can understand why he did not
include the Tom Bombadil sideline - it was tacked on as an
afterthought almost according to Tolkien's son and continuator.
Moreover it did not really fit in to the rest of the tale. Bombadil is
a figure from very old English legends, going back to about the same
time as Beowulf.

As for the Scouring of the Shire, as far as I am concerned that should
have been done, at least to show how much the four hobbits had grown
(literally and metaphorically). Also there's something to be said
about watching little people beat the crap out of each other. (Bet you
can't get that reference Jim ;). It also provides a good denouement
for the trilogy, and wraps things up in a way that was believable and
simply worked very well.

larry

On 7/6/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess by "purists" you mean the book readers who are looking for a
> straight on-screen interpretation. In that aspect, I agree. If that's how it
> unfolds in the book, it should be done as such on screen.
> 
> But us non-fantasy folks shake our heads when such silly tricks are used to
> shore up the plot. Tolkien couldn't figure out how to destroy Isingard (i
> think i have that name right, with butchered spelling i'm sure) using
> believable aspects/characters of the story, so he invents walking trees to
> do it. I know such things are the life-blood of fantasy story
> telling....which I guess is why I'm not a fan of it.
> 
> A similar trick was used at the end of Return of the King, with the ghost
> warriors. Why would a ghost, who can't be killed, be reluctant to fight a
> battle to regain their honor? Makes no sense....the ghost warriors should
> have been flesh-and-blood outcasts risking real life and limb to regain
> their standing.
> 
> All and all though i really enjoyed the movies, which is a testament to
> Jackson. Aragorn was one of the best developed, written, and acted
> characters i've ever seen on screen....
> 
> > True, folks like me would have had kittens.  Especially since the Ents
> > were key to defeating Saruman and allowed >Aragorn to recover the
> > palantir.
> >
> > But I think you were being hasty announcing their war ;)
> >
> > Russel
> >
> >>I'm not really sure how they could have the Ents any more believable,
> >>but the purists would have been up in arms had they left the Ents out
> >>of the story.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 7/6/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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