To follow up on this, and this is not a rebuttal or attack, just follow on. I wonder what you guys think about this issue.
Why would anyone not want to get off drugs and drink? Or wake up at a prescribed time? What makes you and me do that? Why are we so different? -Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Gilchrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 2:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Ouch > > > I've a friend who helped run a day center for homeless in London for a > year and what he's told me of it pretty much concurs with what you > mention below. A similar but different issue in Ireland was an > initiative to provide housing for traveling itinerants (Irish version of > Gypsies, as in the movie Snatch) and most of them just don't want to > settle, so it never really took off. So now they're provided halting > sites where they hook up their caravans to water/electricity etc. (You > should see the political wars created by site location proposals). > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 15:37 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Ouch > > > There's already plenty of money for that. Most of the assistance > programs in many urban centers go begging for homeless to participate. > I did a story about a homeless shelter in San Diego that always had beds > open while there were hundreds of homeless people in the area. The > homeless people were quite up front about why they didn't go to that or > any other shelter -- all of the shelters expected them to get their > lives together -- get off drugs/drink, wake up at a prescribed time in > the morning, do chores, do job training. They didn't want any of that. > > Temporary unemployment aside -- in this country, the people who want to > work and have shelter, do have work and have shelter. There are endless > opportunities for people of drive and discipline. > > Throwing more money at the homeless isn't going to do one whit of good. > > H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Ouch > > > > Again -- I say -- since there is no logical reason not to build it, > > and since it will have so many practical benefits beyond just > > providing defense -- I say why not build it. > > How about spending the money helping homeless people find a living? > > Benjamin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:38 PM > Subject: RE: Ouch > > > > Actually, the Lone Gunman had them flying into the WTC. But the > terrorists > > were directing the plane through computer hacking, not through > > physical presence. It was the premier episode of the series. I bet > > it's never > shown > > on TV again. > > > > But just because people have thought of it, doesn't have anything to > > do > with > > judging how remote a possibility it is. Obviously, people have > > thought of some rich guy buying an ICBM and launching at the U.S. The > > > TV show the Agency had an episode where a terrorist bought an entire > > Soviet sub, including crew and weapons (the CIA stopped delivery, of > > course). > > > > Again -- I say -- since there is no logical reason not to build it, > > and since it will have so many practical benefits beyond just > > providing defense -- I say why not build it. > > > > H. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Ouch > > > > > > At 12:07 AM 12/15/01, Howard wrote: > > >Before Sept. 11, the thought of two planes flying into the WTC was > "remote > > >at best." > > > > Just a few weeks before the September 11 incident, the television Lone > > > Gunman had an episode about a plane flying into a skyscraper. > > > > Tom Clancy's book Sum of all Fears ends with a plane being flown by a > > terrorist into the White House. > > > > So obviously some people had thought of it. The military supposedly > > even had a scenario for it. > > > > My problem with all of this is the government's lack of action to > > prevent known threats while spinning about how we need to protect > > against threats that are improbable. > > > > It's about priorities, and the government's priorities have been > > screwed for years. > > > > I could give you a list of 50+ scenarios where kamikaze terrorists > > could bring this country to its knees and the government has no > > protection against any of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists