But as humans with free will we are able to make a conscious choice to continue with an immoral act.
Assassination of Hitler is still an immoral act, but that is OK. Just because something is immoral doesn't mean we should never do it. This gray area isn't in morality, it is in the ethics. You can accepts and forgive immoral behavior, but that never makes it moral. > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:21 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Being Gay: Nature or Nurture? > > Your argument sounds stupid. :) > > You're still saying "I'm in the 'in' crowd, so you're wrong/stupid". > That's a logical non-sequitur for starters. > > On the subject of killing in particular, it's not black and white. You > say "it's allways wrong to kill except in self defense", but killing > isn't always black and white and self-defense isn't always black and > white. There's assasination for starters -- the question of whether or > not you would have killed Hitler if you had the opportunity and knew > before hand is a classic example. Lots of folks believe abortion is > murder, but if you read Freakonomics, you know that even if there were > an absolute truth to the idea that abortion is murder, the subject > would still not be black and white because of what we know to be the > societal repercussions of a ban on abortion in the past. > > I'm not saying that whatever a culture wants to do is fine. When I > believe that my culture is doing a bad thing I speak out and attempt > to encourage the culture to change. What I'm saying is that the fact > that lots of people agree with you doesn't make you right. You're > actually using the same culturally-relative argument that you're then > lambasting others for using. Except I'm not using that argument -- I'm > telling you it's wrong. > > G wrote: > > Cultural relativism says that anything goes, as long as > > the local "culture" > > deems it ok. > > > Ergo.....slavery, murder, rape..you name it.....is all > > fair game, as long as > > you can get enough people to agree with it. > > > Now you tell me......what argument sounds stupid? > > >> That really is a dumb argument regardless of what label > >> you want to > >> put on things ("cultural relativism")... What you've said > >> is "lots of > >> people agree with me, therefore everyone who disagrees is > >> stupid". > >> Read Freakonomics if you haven't. The majority of people > >> have been > >> wrong about half of everything since man could walk > >> upright. > >> > >> > >> s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 > >> new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > >> > >> add features without fixtures with > >> the onTap open source framework > >> > >> http://www.fusiontap.com > >> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > >> > >> > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:200113 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
