Michael,

I've been lurking on this thread, but I have to respond to something you
said:

I have not only been proselytized by Christians, but I actually had a
next-door neighbor who knew very well that I was Jewish tell me that I was
going to burn in Hell because I didn't accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and
personal Savior.

I replied to her that I pitied her for her intolerance, not recognizing that
I read the Bible and pray to God. Also about her forgetting that Jesus was
born, lived, and died a Jew. The Last Supper was a Passover Seder.

I have never EVER had someone of another (non-Christian) faith thrust their
beliefs at me and dare to tell me I'm damned because I don't share their
belief structure.

And yes I think it's the people like Robertson, Falwell, etc. who are
proponents of this closed-minded, bigoted attitude.
I am very VERY afraid of people like this getting power, because look what
happens to our religious freedoms in this "Christian God-fearing country".

-Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Church and State


Nick,

    You're wasting your breath man.  It's not about prayer in the 
classroom or even about religion in schools.  She even said it herself, 
it is NOT about religion in school, it's about Christianity in schools.  
The debate is based on a dislike of Christianity.  The dislike of 
Christianity stems from a dislike of people like Robertson and Falwell 
and the Christian fundamentalism that was fought in the 50's and 60's.  
They see them and the Crusades and say that Christianity is bad and 
lumps all Christians with them.  It's disingenuous and close minded and 
not really worth the time.
    
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
1900 S. Highland Avenue, Suite 200
Lombard, IL 60148
630/627-5200 x-136
630/627-5255 Fax
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick McClure 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Church and State


  No what is being said is that any group should be allowed to use a 
public 
  building so long as it does not interfere with the purpose of that 
  building, their intentions are legal, and there is enough space to 
  accommodate them.

  >No, what is being said is that no one religion has the right to force 
their
  >presence on others in a forum funded by taxpayer money, i.e. by the 
  >government.
  >
  >And again, you are mixing religion and Christianity, because no other
  >religion is demanding the right to pray or teach their dogma in 
public 
  >schools.
  

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