> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:04 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: mixed religion households
> 
> thanks for letting me get that off my chest. :)
> 
> feel free to chime in and tell me that this is the norm :)

Well... I think it's definitely more the norm now.  Over 14% percent of
Americans claim to be "non-religious" (atheist, agnostic, secular or
non-religious).

I have a similar situation, but shifted farther down the spectrum:

I'm an "out" atheist and my wife is a non-religious agnostic (so we do
generally get along).  I'm not a jerk about things.  I don't try to
"convert" people or get in anybody's face... at least not first.  At the
same time I'm honest and open about it when asked and don't shy when asked
(as we often are) "What church do you go to?"

(Since we've moved from Boston to NE PA I think I've been asked that more in
the past six months than in the previous 30 years.)

My wife on the other hand is less open and more accommodating.  Although
we've never attended church she'll answer "well, we're new here" or (tough
for her) "we're not very religious".  She'll then get mad at me (in private)
if I (good-naturedly) add "...because I'm an atheist and she doesn't believe
in God".

Although our kids (our son especially, he's older) get's asked the question
she insists that we don't "tell him what to say".  "Let him decide for
himself" is all well and good but when he asks ME I answer honestly and that
tends to tick her off.  Of course she doesn't really have a better idea so I
sorta, kinda win that one.

We've having the "Christmas Talk" (again) this year.  My kids don't believe
in Santa (despite my mother's best effort) and my wife is slightly upset by
that.

Personally I have very mixed feeling about Christmas... although it's become
incredibly secularized it's still fundamentally a religious holiday (and
still the only religious holiday that's also a federal holiday).  You can
add all the crap that you like but in this country it's still a Christian
holiday (stolen, as most Christian holidays, from the Pagans but Christian
nonetheless).

Part of me really wants to vocally denounce it.  Another part of me wants to
watch the kids when they open their presents.  It's a dilemma for an
advocate atheist: celebrate just the commercial Christmas?  Denounce the
commercialism and embrace the secular values present in the celebration
(goodwill toward men, charity to those in need, etc)?  Just boycott the
whole thing on principle?

She wants to decorate the house (it's our first Christmas in our first house
so this is the first time this came up).  I don't - or at least I don't want
to decorate it with "Christmas decorations"... but even then I'd like to
find some non-offensive way to make my true feelings known amongst all the
manger scenes in the neighborhood.

In the end we'll probably do whatever she wants on that score... no matter
how strongly you feel on a topic, no matter how determined you are there's
no escaping the plain simple facts about wives: they control access to the
boobies.

Jim Davis


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