> Russ wrote: > Not any worse than Bush == Devil that most of the people here post.
Let's take a piece of the argument: "to prove Liberalism correct, the heartbeat didn't matter." I would offer that this person wasn't saying "it doesn't matter" but rather, "there are things that matter more." This gets into the "scared values" conundrums. The theory goes like this: Our culture holds sacred values -such as family and loyalty - and secular values such as money, entertainment, etc. One is often forced to make a trade-off between two sacred values (a tragic trade-off), and is judged far less harshly than those who deliberate for a long time when deciding between a secular and a sacred value (a taboo trade-off). For example, a hospital administrator who ponders over saving a boy's life to save his hospital $1M causes moral outrage, while people look more sympathetically at the administrator forced to decide between two boys. It matters not that the $1M could save 10 lives, the immediate two values cannot be mismatched and still be acceptable. So that's the problem with this argument: it attempts to engender an emotional response based on a perceived violation of a sacred value: life. In fact it could be equally argued that the life that's living is paramount: the mother. That is, does one being have the right to use another being for life if that other being doesn't agree? Essentially this is why abortions occur in the first place: they are unwanted pregnancies; one being is using another for life and this has a detrimental effect on the first. You can make the responsibility argument, but that doesn't change the fact that the result is an unwanted pregnancy. So the problem with "pro-lifers" is that they spend all their time trying to treat symptoms, abortion, and none trying to treat the cause: unwanted pregnancies. Eliminate unwanted pregnancies, and you eliminate abortions *without* violating a sacred value. You want a said story that would've happened regardless of abortion laws (in fact I would argue this would increase), but not if there was a solution to unwanted pregnancies? http://www.startribune.com/467/story/1117417.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:233007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5