I can tell you that in the accessibility and disability communities,
text-only sites tend to be looked on as a put down.  Most disabled users
will not use them. They tend to not be updated as often, they aren't well
tested, etc.

Also text only in and of itself does not mean accessible. Lots of
disabilities benefit from well placed graphics (cognitive for one).  


Sandra Clark
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Team Fusebox


-----Original Message-----
From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Accessible (Re: Safari on Windows XP and Vista - Never though
I'd see the day.)

So... what do people feel about "separate but equal", as in, a text-only
version of a site?  I think one should strive for excellence in all areas,
so I understand trying to make everything accessible, but I've always
been under the impression that a text only version of a site would be
easier for things like lynx to browse.

But is that, um, tacky?  It just now dawned on me that perhaps having
everything generated, and being able to target various run-times (from
black and white to flash) isn't "where it's at". Perhaps it should be spent
checking that the "same thing" renders good in black and white, low res,
with the color green missing, etc..

It boils down to a link somewhere saying "text-only version" and some
browser
detection, vs. knowing google will pull the right version of a page for
someone
(for instance).

Or are there ways to tell google - oh, I bet there are! Hmmm... eh.

Can you even get away with that?:  "Here is a plain version, don't complain
about flash, because no matter what, that's accessible" type of deal?

Been debating it in my head for a bit now, as I've watched the different
tech come along... guess the screen-readers are getting pretty
sophisticated,
and whatnot... there's some specs, (how supported,  dunno.)...

I've always liked the idea of text only versions for some reason...  eh.

On 6/13/07, Nick McClure wrote:
> We are state and federally funded directly. The University of Kentucky
> is a public land grant institution. Most of our money comes from tax
> payers and grants.
>
> Basically if there is a government regulation it applies to us.
>
> If you are a private company there are certain rules you have to follow
> regarding customer accessibility, however they usually only apply to
> companies larger than 15 people, and only at physical locations where
> the public may be required to visit you.
>
> In regards to the Internet you are under no obligation to provide an
> accessible site unless you provide a public funded service.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:50 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Accessible (Re: Safari on Windows XP and Vista - Never
> though
> > I'd see the day.)
> >
> > Right-o.  I like the internal stuff too... "you shall use X browser,
> if I
> > tell
> > you to!"  I never do... one, I tried to require firefox for... sorta
> > worked...
> >
> > Eh.
> >
> > Hey, what defines a public institution? (<-- again, at anyone)
> >
> > I guess if it's an intranet, doesn't matter, but do you have to get
> > money from the fed/state, or is there more to it than that, to be
> > included in the ADA stuff?  Like, does X business, since it sells
> > to "the public" have to be Accessible?
> >
> > I know the more conservative here might have some hard feelings
> > towards ADA, but hell, it's ok if it ain't outta hand.  I think.
> >
>



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