Well, this thread was about Bush changing science for religious
purposes. Now that you agree that's not the case in this instance and
we only have a few angry claims with no real evidence for other cases
then we can move on. If only we can get the other two and a half to
agree. I won't even count Dana :)

I don't have time to look this up but I think I remember most European
countries are dumping Kyote, because it failed, and jumping on Bush's
plan that brings China and India into the fold. I don't know what
makes you think the US, under Bush's direction, is ignoring the
environment. Companies are lowering pollution and emissions for
cleaner air and environmental reasons, not because the world is
boiling.


On 8/10/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sam wrote:
> > I don't know about a decade, maybe a week. But can you state with
> > confidence the planet won't fix itself?
> >
>
> (1.) I think the point of all of this is that we, humans, cannot
> predict the weather nor climate.  What we can do is look at the facts
> and make some educated guesses.  That's still science.
>
> (2.) This gets back to my actuary question and, yes, they are working
> on this and, no, it doesn't give any new facts.
>
> So ...  We are left with what to do.  Well ...
>
> * CONSERVATIVE APROACH: we'll begin taking action in the same way The
> Ant stores food for the winter.  Can The Ant say for certain it'll be
> cold winter?  No.  But if it is, The Ant's ready.  In other words, The
> Ant wants to make sure that if the worst happens, he'll live through
> it.
>
> * LIBERAL APPROACH: Like The Grasshopper we won't change our behavior
> at all because, while we do see signs that might indicate a cold
> winter, we don't know for sure, so why assume it will be cold and work
> to store food?  That would waste the rest of the summer.
>
> As a conservative I choose to act, but our President is a liberal and
> so he chooses not too.  History will be the judge.
>

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