what are you using to measure violence and death toll?  From the
statistics I've seen, military deaths aren't declining.  From what
I've heard, the violence isn't declining, it's just scattering out to
the less concentrated areas.

On 9/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's what I'm saying.
>
> The man gets up there in the face of an obviously hostile body and answers
> their questions honestly and gets nothing for it.  He has put in place
> projects and plans that have lowered violence and the death toll, and gets
> nothing.
>
> But wait, the left supports our troops right?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:25 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Today's Patraeus: Wow.
> >
> > No kudos to Patraeus for giving an honest answer as well?
> >
> > On 9/11/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's a question of military judgement asked of a military commander.
> > > My personal favorite (I was in and out but listened to a lot of it)
> > > was when he was asked if there was any evidence of a link between
> > 9/11
> > > and Iraq. To which he responded, not to my knowledge. And by the way
> > > -- kudos to Senator Byrd for cutting through a lot of the rhetoric
> > and
> > > coming to the point.
> > >
> > > On 9/11/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > That was a loaded question by a politician trying to score points.
> > > Petraeus
> > > > gave an honest answer. An even better answer would have been to say
> > that
> > > > such political  judgments were for the civilian leadership to make.
> > > >
> > > > The counter-question to Warner's question is this- if we change
> > course
> > > and
> > > > pull out our troops, would America be less safe? Would America's
> > > national
> > > > security interests be harmed by a civil war in Iraq, or by a wider
> > > conflict
> > > > that draws in Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/11/07, Gruss  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sen Warner:
> > > > > "Are you able to say at this time, if we continue what you've
> > laid
> > > > > before the Congress here as a strategy, do you feel that is
> > making
> > > > > America safer?" Warner asked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gen Petraeus:
> > > > > "Sir, I believe that this is indeed the best course of action to
> > > > > achieve our objectives in Iraq."
> > > > >
> > > > > Sen Warner:
> > > > > "Does that make America safer?" Warner asked again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gen Petraeus:
> > > > > "Sir, I don't know actually."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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