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> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Christian's: Paranoid or not
> 
> On Dec 7, 2007 2:01 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'll just finish with, well, I wish I could x'splain it better, but:
> When
> you're really
> open (atheist sounds closed- I used to claim agnostic, but I slant more
> gnostic
> these days- which brings me back to:) there is just, well, amazing

"Agnostic" is really no more open than atheism.

Agnosticism is NOT "there might be a God" as most people seem to think.
Rather it's "there is no possible way for man to determine and answer to the
question so we're just going to stop thinking about it".

For what it's worth a close belief is "Deism" which essentially states
"there is clearly an organizing force behind the universe but there is no
way for man to ever to understand it"

Personally I think the argument that Atheists are "closed" a little
insulting.  The fundamental premise of atheism is that there is no evidence
for "God" and therefore there should be no belief in "God".  The
implication, of course (and I don't know and atheist, including myself, that
would argue here) is that if presented with conclusive evidence that God
existed then any good atheist would accept God.

Jim Davis


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