All I'm saying Dana is that you, of all people, should understand that there
are waaaaaayyyy more variables that go into this than just "the president
did it for his oil buddies".  I'm actually invested quite heavily in the oil
industry(ies), so I keep an eye on as many of the variables as I can.  But
hey... You believe what you want to believe.   Will the price of oil
continue to decline?  I think it will, but I'm sure 'ol Dubya can make it go
back up if he wanted to...  


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bush on Iran,ignoring intelligence that doesn't fit his world
view. Again.

versus the previous week yeah, it is. Do you seriously think it will
continue to drop? Have you noticed that 2.73 a gallon is now "low"? I'd find
it amusing that a web developer was lecturing me on finance, if it weren't
so sad. We've had a commodities market for a long long time, have *you*
noticed *that*?

But hey. The price of oil has more than doubled in the last two or three
years, but that's mere coincidence. Blame Canada, or maybe the Chinese. It's
difinitely nothing to do with the president's industry ties. Neither is his
threatened veto of the energy bill.

Nope nope. The president watches over us and protects us. Our father who art
in Washington.

Bah.

On Dec 8, 2007 7:34 AM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OPEC serves the purpose of keeping oil prices high.  Devaluation of 
> the dollar serves the purpose of keeping oil (and gold) prices high.
> Speculation in the commodities markets keeps the price of oil high.  
> Lots of things keep the price of oil high.  Did you notice that oil 
> prices have been declining for the past couple of weeks or so?  It's 
> down nearly 10 percent... Is that Bush's fault as well?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:25 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Bush on Iran,ignoring intelligence that doesn't fit his 
> world view. Again.
>
>  Bush's big stick serves the purpose of keeping oil prices high ;)
>
> On Dec 7, 2007 5:52 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Diplomacy is preferable to war, but there has to be a credible 
> > threat of some sort of retaliation for diplomacy to work. Economic 
> > sanctions are the best tool the international community has against 
> > a country like Iran, but our ability to pressure Iran with sanctions 
> > is limited by the refusal of Russia and China to cooperate with more 
> > robust
> sanctions
> against them.
> >
> > Fortunately, we have other credible means of threatening Iran. To 
> > paraphrase Teddy Rosevelt, Bush is speaking softly and carrying the 
> > big stick of the U.S. military on his shoulder, and the Iranians 
> > believe (quite reasonably) that Bush will take that stick and thump 
> > them if need be. Bush's tough talk on Iran is part of the diplomatic 
> > strategy, not an attempt to subvert diplomacy.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 3:13 AM, Vivec wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Government report released Tuesday says Iran stopped nuke work in
> 2003"
> > >
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/05/bush.iran/index.html
> > >
> > > At least this information came out before they dropped a tactical
> nuke.
> > > It's amazing the misdirection and the build up over Iran.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Let's hope that diplomacy is continued with Iran to bring them 
> > > in-line with what the world wants.
> > > Because I don't think anyone wants a Nuclear Strike capable Iran.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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