Consider how differently the quote reads in context.

"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real
suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the
oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless
conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the
illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness."

Marx was saying that religion takes the edge off of real suffering but
doesn't remedy the source thereof. People wanted a 'new drug' (one that
wouldn't make them sick  haha), and in Marx's view, Communism was it.

So, Marx wasn't dissing religion, he was saying that Communism would finally
accomplish what religion attempted to do but failed.


-----Original Message-----
From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: [QUAR] Re: McCain - US is a Christian Nation,a President should
be a Judeo Christian.


I dunno man....opiates tend to calm, to numb.....I think Marx was referring
to this affect.....the numbing of reason.

No...I think religion seems to be more the stimulant of the masses....the
instigator....the enzyme that triggers rudimentary, if ruthless, instincts:
exclude, isolate, divide....conquer.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> its pointless dog.
> the opiate for the masses is so named because of its ability. the 
> minute a moron says shit like this i lose all interest in ANYTHING 
> else they have to say.
>
> -- tony
>
> Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
> -- siddhartha gautama
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:22 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The United States of America was founded on the basic principles of 
> > human decency, that all people are created equal, that all people 
> > should be
> free,
> > and that all people should have the right to pursue their brand of 
> > happiness.
> >
> > These aren't Judeo Christian principles...these aren't Jewish or 
> > Buddhist
> or
> > Sikh principles....these principles belong to no religion, sect, 
> > creed, race, culture or nation.....these are the basic principles 
> > upon which all
> of
> > humankind should be built.
> >
> > Any institution which professes to advance the cause of human 
> > society
> MUST
> > borrow from these principles. BUT...no institution can lay claim to 
> > sole proprietorship of these principles. Such a declaration can only 
> > lay the groundwork for the dangerous ideologies built upon 
> > exclusionism.
> >
> > Sorry for the preaching....i'll shut up.
> >
> > (just wish I could pound these words into some people's head)
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Billy Cox 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I know some of these people, but I'm not sure they will really 
> >> believe
> that
> >> McCain has found religion.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:12 AM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: [QUAR] Re: McCain - US is a Christian Nation,a President 
> >> should
> be
> >> a Judeo Christian.
> >>
> >>
> >> Goddamit.
> >>
> >> The thing that really pisses me off about this? There is a HUGE 
> >> swath of this country that will cheer this. I know many people in 
> >> my own life
> that
> >> will cheer this. Otherwise nice, decent, normal people 
> >> who...just....I dunno...become idiots when it comes to matters of 
> >> faith.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 



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