> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:50 PM, denstar wrote: > >> We're in NM, so we're familiar with how wonderful kids can turn out >> when raised by, say, grandparents, but, you gotta somehow agree that >> having kids and expecting someone else to raise them is sorta not >> responsible. >> >> And I've had enough of non-responsible people telling everyone else >> they need to be held accountable and whatnot.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > You have no idea of the relationship between any of these people and > here you are throwing stones at her. Shame on you, Denny, you are > better than that. Oh Rob, don't make me blush! Fer shame... I wasn't actually referring to anyone in specific, man. T'was all generalities, that happened to occur in a thread about circumstance. Eh. Anyways-- so you don't have a problem with, like, kids having kids? You feel it's being responsible, to bring new life into this world, and then foist it off on someone else? You know, a lot of these kids, raised by their Grandfolk, have real issues with their "real" parents, you know? Sometimes it can take years and years to get over it. Sometimes it passes onto another generation before it's settled, if ever. I had thought you'd be "all in" for being responsible... maybe it wasn't you, but someone keeps posting the wrestler turned gubment official's comment to the welfare mom, and somehow I thought you were down with that sentiment. Now don't get me wrong, I've said many times how I wish we were a little more family oriented, "like Spain", usually, just because I liked what I heard about the place, but anyways... I love the idea of grandparents having an active role (hell, besides the potential for sexual abuse, I think lots and lots of family is swell), and whatnot. But we're not exactly talking about that, or at least, I'm talking about the irresponsible way of doing it, I guess. I hope I'm putting words in your mouth, but: You *really* think that it's responsible to produce children you can't provide for, eh? Wow. Maybe I just think I'm sober, and really I'm tripping balls. Tell me I'm tripping. Please. It would all make more sense that way, in an Alice in Wonderland-sh sense. -- Erotic or sexual love can truly be love if it is not selfishly sexual or lustful. Mortimer Adler ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:267516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
