I think the IRA did alot of terrorist activity - and I dont' know that the
actions of some american citizens qualifies the american government
supporting terrorist activity.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)


> OK if its a matter of fact, how come american civilians donated so much
> money to the IRA.
>
> The IRA attacked civilians, the only difference being they were a safe
> distance away from the blast when it went off.
>
> I still think its a matter of perspective, the palestinians obviously feel
> they have a point, they don't believe they are terrorists when they blow
> themselves up, they feel justified in what they are doing (how they reach
> that conclusion, god knows).
>
> If they (and alot of arab countries) do not percieve them as terrorists,
how
> can it not be a matter of perspective whether they are terrorists or not?
>
>
> To be honest i'm not sympathetic, its a nightmare situation and like i
said
> its just a observation.  To be quite honest if I was there or personally
> involved I would condone extreme action if I was from Israel, simply from
a
> self defense point of view.  But if i was a palestinian I might feel the
> same as them.  Who's knows unless you are there and have experienced it
> first hand.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 April 2002 17:00
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)
>
>
> I understand you're not condoning ... but it doesn't depend on
perspective,
> it depends on a clear use of the English language -- attacking civilian
> targets with the intent to kill, harass, discourage -- um, terrorize, is
> terrorism. Attacking military targets (whether civilians become
"collateral
> damager" or not) is an act of military action, or war, and is not
terrorism.
> Regardless of your sympathies toward Palestine, and no matter how
justified
> you may believe the Palestinians are to be angry, rebellious, etc., to
call
> the suicide bombers anything other than terrorists (such as patriots,
> martyrs or freedom fighters) does a disservice to the honorable men and
> women throughout history who have been such noble things. There is nothing
> noble about blowing yourself up in an attempt to kill civilians. And to
call
> Israel's retaliation for these reprehensible attacks anything other than
> just defies logic.
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:42 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)
>
>
> >They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists.
>
> Surely the issue of whether they are terrorists depends on your
perspective
> of the situation?  I'm not condoning anything, its just an observation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 April 2002 16:45
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)
>
>
> The fault of those dead prists and nuns lies squarely with the
Palistinians
> (and I see a post from MD saying it didn't happen, citing a credible news
> source).  They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists. They have brought it
> on with their totally unjustified suicide bombings.  Israel is acting in
> self defense.  To call Israel actions terrorism is to totally twist the
> English language and shows a profound disrespect for all that is honorable
> and just. If Israeli actions creates more suicide bombers than that only
> demonstrates the total lack of intelligence and morals among the
> Palistinians. Why do you persist in defending such utterly depraved
actions?
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mo mansour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:14 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)
>
>
> >How can Israel be wrong when all it is trying to do
> is defend its citizens
> >against immoral attacks?
>
> H.
>
> And blowing up people and detaining and terrorizing,
> and starvation,and cutting off the basic human needs
> to exist and executing who they want and leaving
> nothing undestroyed in their path is moral ?
> so you are fighting terrorism with even harsher
> terrorism and against all the people, that is what is
> moral and definding yourself...how many more suicide
> bombers you think this has creatd ?
>
> Bethlaham where all the killing is going on today, is
> mostly all christians and catholics......
>
> A Catholic priest has been killed and at least six
> nuns have been wounded during fighting in the West
> Bank town of Bethlehem.
>
> http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0402/mideast.html
>
> You think that the priest and those nuns put up a
> "fair fight" ? tanks and machine guns against an old
> priest and nuns, i think thats fighting
> terrorism...sure...Sadly, the death toll in Betlaham
> is now reported as higher than those killed in
> Ramallah....
>
> like I said, the news usualy take an extra day to make
> the headlines here, but eventualy it does...
>
>
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