Speaking of which, if anyone has a daughter -- or sister -- or aunt who is
single, and looking to get married, my mother and sister would like me to
talk to them.

LOL

(Love you mom. And love google indexing of cf lists)

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM, David Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> +1
>
> As an example, the Catholic Church (not sure if it applies to all parishes,
> but I believe it does) will not allow a woman to marry if she has ever been
> divorced.  But she can still marry elsewhere and it will be legally
> recognized, just not by the Church.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: has anyone checked on Sam?
>
> Not sure who you are arguing with Larry.
>
> I don't think _anyone_ is arguing that religions should have to marry
> anyone
> they dont want to.
>
> My point was that the top supposition that "gay marriage" means that all
> churches suddenly have to marry anyone who wants to be married is
> completely
> and utterly silly.
>
> They don't even have to do that today, with straight marriages.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > >No. The equal protection clause doesn't come into play inside a church.
> It
> > >doesn't currently, and I have never heard that as part of a "gay
> marriage"
> > >argument before.
> >
> > Except that I'm referring to the legality of gay marriage in general. As
> it
> > stands some people because of physiological factors are treated
> differently
> > under the law than others. Its the same situation as what used to exist
> > regarding laws that forbade blacks and whites to marry.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Currently, as a hetero male, I can legally marry (Mom, don't get your
> > hopes
> > >up, still have to find a girl.)
> > >
> > >But:
> > >I cannot get married to a woman by a priest in a catholic ceremony.
> > because
> > >I am not catholic, and haven't followed "the rules" to qualify.
> > >
> > >I cannot get married by a rabbi in a jewish cerermony. because I am not
> > >jewish. and haven't followed "the rules" to qualify.
> > >
> > >The same is probably true in a Shinto church, or a Buddhist temple, or
> any
> > >other religion.
> > >
> > >How would that change if gay marriage was allowed? I have never heard a
> > >court or even a gay rights advocate suggesting it.
> >
> > That would not change. If a minister objects, he or she could refuse to
> > perform the ceremony. A gay couple could still get a marriage license and
> > have a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony performed by a minister who
> > does not object.
> >
> > I am not suggesting that the government intrude on religion, rather that
> > all people are treated the same under the law. As it stands now, some
> people
> > because of physical factors are treated as less than other people in our
> > society. That violates the equal protection clause.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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