I've got a daughter who is single. But she's only 2. Well, almost 2. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of which, if anyone has a daughter -- or sister -- or aunt who is > single, and looking to get married, my mother and sister would like me to > talk to them. > > LOL > > (Love you mom. And love google indexing of cf lists) > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM, David Churvis < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> As an example, the Catholic Church (not sure if it applies to all parishes, >> but I believe it does) will not allow a woman to marry if she has ever been >> divorced. But she can still marry elsewhere and it will be legally >> recognized, just not by the Church. >> >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:16 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: has anyone checked on Sam? >> >> Not sure who you are arguing with Larry. >> >> I don't think _anyone_ is arguing that religions should have to marry >> anyone >> they dont want to. >> >> My point was that the top supposition that "gay marriage" means that all >> churches suddenly have to marry anyone who wants to be married is >> completely >> and utterly silly. >> >> They don't even have to do that today, with straight marriages. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > >No. The equal protection clause doesn't come into play inside a church. >> It >> > >doesn't currently, and I have never heard that as part of a "gay >> marriage" >> > >argument before. >> > >> > Except that I'm referring to the legality of gay marriage in general. As >> it >> > stands some people because of physiological factors are treated >> differently >> > under the law than others. Its the same situation as what used to exist >> > regarding laws that forbade blacks and whites to marry. >> > >> > >> > > >> > >Currently, as a hetero male, I can legally marry (Mom, don't get your >> > hopes >> > >up, still have to find a girl.) >> > > >> > >But: >> > >I cannot get married to a woman by a priest in a catholic ceremony. >> > because >> > >I am not catholic, and haven't followed "the rules" to qualify. >> > > >> > >I cannot get married by a rabbi in a jewish cerermony. because I am not >> > >jewish. and haven't followed "the rules" to qualify. >> > > >> > >The same is probably true in a Shinto church, or a Buddhist temple, or >> any >> > >other religion. >> > > >> > >How would that change if gay marriage was allowed? I have never heard a >> > >court or even a gay rights advocate suggesting it. >> > >> > That would not change. If a minister objects, he or she could refuse to >> > perform the ceremony. A gay couple could still get a marriage license and >> > have a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony performed by a minister who >> > does not object. >> > >> > I am not suggesting that the government intrude on religion, rather that >> > all people are treated the same under the law. As it stands now, some >> people >> > because of physical factors are treated as less than other people in our >> > society. That violates the equal protection clause. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >
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