That being said, I do my share as long as it does not cost me money (such as turning he thermostat down a bit more in the winter, up a little bit more in the summer as well as trying to consolidate our driving, recycling, etc). However, you won't see me investing a substantial amount of money to 'go green' until/unless there is more definitive proof that humans are indeed the cause (or are hastening) the climate change.
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > As I pointed out in another thread, we do not know what is causing the > climate change, so it does not make sense to spend tons of money on a > 'solution' that may have no affect. We need more research/knowledge to make > an informed decison about what is the proper solution (if the problem is > being caused or exacerbated by us) moving forward. > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ok so >> >> case one -- they are not the driving force and we do nothing -- outcome >> neutral >> case two -- they are and we do some remediation --outcome acceptable >> case three -- they are and we do nothing -- outcome unacceptable >> case four -- they are not and we do something -- some financial losses >> >> I am in favor of #2 and think the magnitude of the potential consequences >> of #3 means that its risk far outweighs the risk of #4, which would be a >> problem but not catastrophic. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I think you missed my point. >> > >> > It was stated: >> > >> > 'If we take measures to do something about GW, but then discover >> > it wasn't real, how much will we regret that?' >> > >> > I was merely pointing out that I have heard others use the same logic >> when >> > discussing God. 'If you spend your whole life devoted to God and in the >> > end, >> > there is not one, would you regret it?' >> > >> > IMHO, me going 'green' will have about as much impact on the Earth as my >> > religious beliefs.....not much at all. I am not convinced that humans >> are >> > the driving force in the climate changes. >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Otherwise known as Rene Descartes' "Le Pari," or "The Wager." >> > > >> > > I don't see that "bleeding hearts" would care either way. I >> personally >> > > think that you cannot talk yourself into believing in God and that >> anyone >> > > who does so out of self-interest is probably committing a greater sin >> > than >> > > unbelief. >> > > >> > > However. >> > > >> > > Your religious beliefs and mine are a personal matter that probably >> > affect >> > > nobody else. When George Bush applies magical thinking to >> environmental >> > > matters and calls it religion, millions of people pay the price. >> > > >> > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Funny, I have heard people use the same logic about believing in >> God. >> > > > 'There is a chance there is a God, so why not believe just to make >> sure >> > > you >> > > > are covered'. I cannot imagine how the bleeding hearts would react >> to >> > > > that. >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > RoMunn wrote: >> > > > > > Global warming is not a myth, it is a worldwide con perpetrated >> by >> > > > > shysters >> > > > > > like ALGORE. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I think most people would agree that the Earth is warmer and that >> the >> > > > > climate is different, e.g., arctic ice melt, et al. >> > > > > >> > > > > So the simple questions for humans are: Is this change a threat or >> > not? >> > > > > >> > > > > Which brings us to these questions: >> > > > > >> > > > > (1.) If we learn that GW is real and we're all about to die, will >> we >> > > > > comfortable knowing we may have done something but didn't? >> > > > > >> > > > > and/or >> > > > > >> > > > > (2.) If we take measures to do something about GW, but then >> discover >> > > > > it wasn't real, how much will we regret that? >> > > > > >> > > > > - ANSWER - >> > > > > Doing a comparative analysis I will pick #2 and live with my >> regret >> > > > > rather than #1 where I will die with it. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:283191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5