there is a difference, unless you think fiscal folly, military adventurism and invasive regulation of people's private lives conserves anything
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> There's a difference? The all quack like ducks to me... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:47 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >> >> >> don't help them co-opt the word conservative. It's a neo-con thing. >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Eric Roberts >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> Making up things and attributing them to someone is a very conservative >>> tactic... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:57 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>> >>> >>> But, it was only discovered that she used the account for government >>> business BECAUSE fo the hack. >>> >>> Using your logic, the ends justify the means - a very conservative >>> point of view. >>> >>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Eric Roberts >>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think this is a case that would be similar to one where an IT person or >>>> anyone else in charge of sensitive data used a weak password and thus >>> caused >>>> sensitive data to be released or hacked into. If she didn't use this >>>> account to transmit government business, we wouldn't have been even >>> talking >>>> about this in the first place because it never would have made headlines >>> and >>>> the hack probably wouldn't have ever been discovered. Parts of the rules >>>> are that she use secure and approved (ie a government email account, not >>>> yahoo) methods to transmit government business for a few reasons. One >>> it's >>>> secure and another would be that said business is saved and backed up for >>>> archival purposes and for access by acts like FOIA. SO yes, she is >>> culpable >>>> in that she failed to use a secure account and she failed to properly >>> secure >>>> her account. I would say the same for any government official regardless >>> of >>>> their party. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:57 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>> >>>> >>>>> I though I made it quite clear >>>> >>>> I don't think you did. However if you are saying that regardless of the >>> lack >>>> of wisdom on the victim's part that it's still a crime that should be >>>> punished then we really don't have a disagreement on the crime. We seem >>>> however to disagree on the culpability of the victim. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317326 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
