I am pretty sure I was the one who pondered about evidence obtained
illegally, but not by police.

I said I did nto think it would be used, but would not be surprised if
it had been tried before.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> omg... I don't know whether items obtained by private citizens by
> breaking a law are admissible and I said so. But you have to wonder
> about chain of custody and the like. Seems like it would be too easy
> to get mismissed on grounds that there is no proof they are the
> defendant's. If they are admissible, I suspect that prosecutors would
> find it too embarrassing to prosecute using the items as evidence,
> unless the alleged offense something really egregious.
>
> But in practice -- it's the police and the rest of the government you
> have to keep your eye on, because they are the ones with the power,
> much more than individuals usually have. Yanno? Remember how we
> discussed that father who sued Phelps? Phelps is not the government. I
> am guessing -- let's flag that again as a guess -- that a similar
> principle may apply.
>
> And before someone says again that I think it's ok to break the law -- NOT.
>
> And actually, why am I even still in this conversation? I know Sam
> does this on purpose.
>
>
> Laterz
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> that's not what I said, Sam. I said the police need a warrant.
>>
>> OK we're getting someplace. So only the police need a warrant,
>> everyone else can have at it if they find a crime and it's not
>> admissible in court.
>>
>>>> The the police can invade your privacy as long as they find something
>>>> illegal but don't use it in court?
>>>
>>> she was not on trial, Sam, that was a criminal case and the guy who
>>> changed her password was the defendant.
>>
>> She was, I posted the link yesterday. The Judge said she didn't break
>> any laws using her Yahoo email for business.
>>
>>>> She broke no laws according to the Judge.
>>
>>
>
> 

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