On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >> And, once again, Social Security is not the problem. Medicare? Hell >> yes, big nasty problem. Social Security? Not so much. I can show you >> the numbers again if you like but it doesn't seem to keep you from >> spouting the same ignorant bullshit. >> >> > The numbers show quite clearly that within decades the fund goes negative > and never comes back. Medicare might be a more immediate problem, but > practical considerations will eventually cap fees, doctors visits, drugs, > procedures, and all sort of other things in Medicare. By contrast, because > Social Security amounts to straight transfer payments from working age > people to retired people, there is no way to limit activity or otherwise > control costs like in Medicare. The only way to keep the program going is to > bleed the taxpayer more and more until there is no money left. What then?
I don't see how the solution to a problem is to get rid of another solution to the problem that's not optimal. How do you see us solving the problem? And if it's "let people die in the streets, because they 'deserve' it, due to the 'choices' they made", well, I can respect that, but I won't go for it. And not because I might be "that person" someday, but because I think "we" are better than that. "We" have the resources needed in spades. Hell, we spend huge amounts on "defense", and how often have you complained about that? It's always "social program" this, and "social program" that. "We're going bankrupt trying to care for people!", never: "we're going bankrupt killing folk and building awesome weapons!". So what is it? Is it the money alone? The idea that people should be able to take care of themselves? What galls you so much about X but not Y? It's like, the main problem with "overpopulation" isn't the number of people, it's the "footprint" size. Killing off a bunch of people is an easy solution, I guess, but doesn't strike me as the best, or even optimal, one. Bah. Maybe we should focus on the things we agree on, like legalizing weed. Think of how much money we could save across the board. Seems like everybody here agrees on that one, neh? Bunch of pot heads! =) (just kidding, I know there's several people here that don't partake, yet still support the cause) But anyways... LEGALIZE IT! :Den -- Philosophy begins in wonder. Plato ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:332016 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
