I fail to see how that is government spying on people becasue they have a state issued ID. Try again.
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > You dont remember the illegal domestic wiretaps under the Bush > administration that Obama has continued? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:10 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election > > > What recent history? > > Please show me one documented case where the gov't 'spied' on someone > becasue they had a state issued ID. > > On the flip side: How it paranoia to want to verify someone is who they > claim to be when they are casting a vote (arguably the single most important > thing we, as citizens, can do)? > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is it paranoid when recent history supports that? There has been more >> government interference into our lives...more illegal intrusions into >> our privacy ever since Bush took office than during any time in our > history. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 09:56 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election >> >> >> Hrm...what is more paranoid? Wanting to require people show ID in >> order to vote, or thinking that having an ID means the government can spy > on you? >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> "A conservative would argue for AT LEAST state's rights in this case >>>> because, at the end of the day, it's about being true to principles." >>>> >>>> It's strictly a state's rights issue right now. That is why all of >>>> the laws differ from each other. That is not to say that one day it >>>> will not become a federal issue. I hope not. >>>> >>> >>> Exactly, and many states (and their citizens) are concerned about the >>> "slippery slope" when it comes to, say, the Census and/or registering >>> your guns. However most people agree with public birth records (as >>> well as marriage, residence of citizenship, etc). >>> >>> Thus states, countries, and cities should have a good record of who >>> is possibly a voter. >>> >>> If you walk into a polling place to vote and claim to be Jerry >>> Born-in-Barnesville they should be able to easily look you up. And, >>> just to ensure you're not trying to impersonate Jerry, they might ask >>> you for a recent energy or phone bill, the assumption being that they >>> know you were both there and you'd really have to be special to >>> trying to pull a fast one. They might even ask you to have a >>> neighbor or 2 vouche for you in case you don't have such bill. >>> >>> But requiring an ID would therefore be unnecessary, punitive, and >>> generally paranoid to the point of delusi >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339375 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
