You should take your own advice about reading before opening your mouth Eric.
I asked for documented proof of the government spying on people because they have a state issued ID and you replied with a statement about the 'illegal domestic wiretaps'. Scroll down...you will see it. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Who said because of having an id? I sure didn't. I said there was a > history of government spying on the people. Please read before opening > mouth Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:08 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election > > > I fail to see how that is government spying on people becasue they have a > state issued ID. Try again. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You dont remember the illegal domestic wiretaps under the Bush >> administration that Obama has continued? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:10 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election >> >> >> What recent history? >> >> Please show me one documented case where the gov't 'spied' on someone >> becasue they had a state issued ID. >> >> On the flip side: How it paranoia to want to verify someone is who >> they claim to be when they are casting a vote (arguably the single >> most important thing we, as citizens, can do)? >> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Eric Roberts >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Is it paranoid when recent history supports that? There has been >>> more government interference into our lives...more illegal intrusions >>> into our privacy ever since Bush took office than during any time in >>> our >> history. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 09:56 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election >>> >>> >>> Hrm...what is more paranoid? Wanting to require people show ID in >>> order to vote, or thinking that having an ID means the government can >>> spy >> on you? >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "A conservative would argue for AT LEAST state's rights in this >>>>> case because, at the end of the day, it's about being true to > principles." >>>>> >>>>> It's strictly a state's rights issue right now. That is why all of >>>>> the laws differ from each other. That is not to say that one day >>>>> it will not become a federal issue. I hope not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Exactly, and many states (and their citizens) are concerned about >>>> the "slippery slope" when it comes to, say, the Census and/or >>>> registering your guns. However most people agree with public birth >>>> records (as well as marriage, residence of citizenship, etc). >>>> >>>> Thus states, countries, and cities should have a good record of who >>>> is possibly a voter. >>>> >>>> If you walk into a polling place to vote and claim to be Jerry >>>> Born-in-Barnesville they should be able to easily look you up. And, >>>> just to ensure you're not trying to impersonate Jerry, they might >>>> ask you for a recent energy or phone bill, the assumption being that >>>> they know you were both there and you'd really have to be special to >>>> trying to pull a fast one. They might even ask you to have a >>>> neighbor or 2 vouche for you in case you don't have such bill. >>>> >>>> But requiring an ID would therefore be unnecessary, punitive, and >>>> generally paranoid to the point of delusi >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339385 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
