The sampling of 90 people is really really small.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> feel free to run away, Sam, but you still haven't showed me any basis at
> all for the crap you've been talking.
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I give up and feel the fool for not heeding this advice sooner:
> >
> > Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat
> > you with experience
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Yes it is. It's the same study done three times. Two people, 90 people
> > >> and 28 people.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ah, here's the heart of the problem. No, Sam, it isn't. It's -- I'd
> call
> > it
> > > two studies and an experiment I guess -- that tested the same
> hypothesis.
> > > According to your nomenclature here, all trials for the same drug are a
> > > single study. And mutually responsible for one another's methodology.
> > And,
> > > according to you, everything anyone remotely affiliated with them may
> > have
> > > said in an interview...
> > >
> > >
> > >> PURE BS!
> > >> If a scientist ever made nickle form an oil company everything they
> > >> ever say for the rest of their lives is bunk in your mind.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I don't recall ever saying this...  I'd get into what I might have said
> > if
> > > I had participated in whatever thread you are talking about, but let's
> > cut
> > > to the chase. You have no clue.  You just know you don't like it. I
> > suppose
> > > you're entitled to this position, but don't ask me to take it (or you)
> > > seriously at this point.
> > >
> > > NOW, you say the science is sound even though you know it was the
> > >> equivalent of Bill Maher saying if you don't agree you're inferior.
> > >
> > >
> > > Whatever, dude, you're still talking about something that's completely
> > > beside the point. Concentrate on Larry's journal article. What is wrong
> > > with the science?
> > >
> > >
> > >> No, I'm saying it was a publicity stunt that for a radio station that
> > >
> > > some people took seriously.
> > >
> > >
> > > different set of events.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Again if it was tied to anything right
> > >> leaning it would be bunk before it started. Now miraculously science
> > >> can never be wrong.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Your paranoia is getting on top of you. I am saying that if there is
> > > something wrong with the journal article -- besides your moral
> > indignation
> > > at something said by someone that did not even participate--
> > > then speak up. And learn the freaking difference between a hypothesis
> > and a
> > > clinical study for fuck's sake
> > >
> > >
> > >>  I…decided to find out what was BIOLOGICALLY WRONG with people who
> > >>  DON'T AGREE WITH ME.
> > >>
> > >
> > > so? Is that in the journal article that Larry posted? Is it part of the
> > > selection criteria, or does it affect the sample size? You're offended.
> > I'm
> > > sad you're sad. It still doesn't "see what the scientists had to say"
> > mean
> > > "predetermined". No matter how sad or offended you are.
> > >
> > >
> > >> That's what Larry claimed and that's why we're discussing it. Do you
> > >> not pay attention?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I don't give a fuck what Larry said. That might be why you're... doing
> > > whatever you are doing, but I am here because a whiny little bitch like
> > you
> > > that's all "wa wa wa the man said mean things about my beliefs" needs
> to
> > be
> > > called on his crap every so often and since I'm in the mood for it. So,
> > are
> > > you actually saying that anyone who knows anyone who has ever said a
> rude
> > > thing about neo-cons is automatically incapable of objective science?
> No
> > > wait,`anyone who is testing a hypothesis that in other circumstances
> was
> > > tested by someone who knows someone who once said that someone who
> thinks
> > > like you do might possibly have his head up his ass... and you know
> what,
> > > anyone who thinks the way you do MUST have his head up his ass. Wow.
> > Well,
> > > my work here is done. Gawd knows how much science that little tirade
> > > invalidated not, of course, that you would believe it anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > > I added the "teeny-weeny" surprise but you should realize what outcome
> > >
> > >> they expected without me spelling it out over and over and over again.
> > >>
> > >
> > > expected outcome != predetermined outc
> >
> >
>
> 

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