I give up and feel the fool for not heeding this advice sooner:

Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat
you with experience

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes it is. It's the same study done three times. Two people, 90 people
>> and 28 people.
>>
>
> Ah, here's the heart of the problem. No, Sam, it isn't. It's -- I'd call it
> two studies and an experiment I guess -- that tested the same hypothesis.
> According to your nomenclature here, all trials for the same drug are a
> single study. And mutually responsible for one another's methodology. And,
> according to you, everything anyone remotely affiliated with them may have
> said in an interview...
>
>
>> PURE BS!
>> If a scientist ever made nickle form an oil company everything they
>> ever say for the rest of their lives is bunk in your mind.
>>
>
> I don't recall ever saying this...  I'd get into what I might have said if
> I had participated in whatever thread you are talking about, but let's cut
> to the chase. You have no clue.  You just know you don't like it. I suppose
> you're entitled to this position, but don't ask me to take it (or you)
> seriously at this point.
>
> NOW, you say the science is sound even though you know it was the
>> equivalent of Bill Maher saying if you don't agree you're inferior.
>
>
> Whatever, dude, you're still talking about something that's completely
> beside the point. Concentrate on Larry's journal article. What is wrong
> with the science?
>
>
>> No, I'm saying it was a publicity stunt that for a radio station that
>
> some people took seriously.
>
>
> different set of events.
>
>
>> Again if it was tied to anything right
>> leaning it would be bunk before it started. Now miraculously science
>> can never be wrong.
>>
>
> Your paranoia is getting on top of you. I am saying that if there is
> something wrong with the journal article -- besides your moral indignation
> at something said by someone that did not even participate--
> then speak up. And learn the freaking difference between a hypothesis and a
> clinical study for fuck's sake
>
>
>>  I…decided to find out what was BIOLOGICALLY WRONG with people who
>>  DON'T AGREE WITH ME.
>>
>
> so? Is that in the journal article that Larry posted? Is it part of the
> selection criteria, or does it affect the sample size? You're offended. I'm
> sad you're sad. It still doesn't "see what the scientists had to say" mean
> "predetermined". No matter how sad or offended you are.
>
>
>> That's what Larry claimed and that's why we're discussing it. Do you
>> not pay attention?
>>
>
> I don't give a fuck what Larry said. That might be why you're... doing
> whatever you are doing, but I am here because a whiny little bitch like you
> that's all "wa wa wa the man said mean things about my beliefs" needs to be
> called on his crap every so often and since I'm in the mood for it. So, are
> you actually saying that anyone who knows anyone who has ever said a rude
> thing about neo-cons is automatically incapable of objective science? No
> wait,`anyone who is testing a hypothesis that in other circumstances was
> tested by someone who knows someone who once said that someone who thinks
> like you do might possibly have his head up his ass... and you know what,
> anyone who thinks the way you do MUST have his head up his ass. Wow. Well,
> my work here is done. Gawd knows how much science that little tirade
> invalidated not, of course, that you would believe it anyway.
>
>
> I added the "teeny-weeny" surprise but you should realize what outcome
>
>> they expected without me spelling it out over and over and over again.
>>
>
> expected outcome != predetermined outc

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