The idea is that if a private area is used as a public space then much of the control a private owner normally doesn't apply. consider private land that's been used as a public park - many apartment developments in New York do this for instance. The courts have ruled that being able to restrict a certain class of people from the park is illegal in this matter.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is this specific club on public or private property? > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> There's also the issue of public space. There have been several court >> cases that went over this. >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Where is that line blurry? >> > >> > Either they get public funds or they don't, doesn't seem to be a lot of >> > grey area. >> > >> > Sounds like "truthiness". >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Exactly if they accept fed funds then they have to follow fed rules. >> >> however it gets more difficult to discern when the lines between >> >> public and private become very blurred. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Both Augusta National and Lucille Roberts limit membership to their >> >> > clubs based on the sex/gender (and in Augusta's case, wealth) of the >> >> > individual seeking membership. >> >> > >> >> > Simplified? Maybe. Untrue? Nope. >> >> > >> >> > I also don't think either should be forced to change those policies. >> >> > If they receive public funds, however, then I have an issue with their >> >> > policies. >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Augusta gets to set their own rules, hence why no one is forcing them >> >> >> to accept women and why they only just recently accepted black folks >> >> >> as members. >> >> >> >> >> >> That, however, does not mean that outside folks should not suggest >> >> >> that they change their rules and that is precisely what happened in >> >> >> this case. Augusta has a very high profile owing to hosting the >> >> >> Masters tournament. There are many people, myself included, that >> would >> >> >> like to see that high profile used to promote a message of equality. >> >> >> Whether or not they do that is up to them. >> >> >> >> >> >> As for how it is different than Lucille Roberts, that's simple. It's >> a >> >> >> matter of profile, intention and comparables. Augusta, theoretically, >> >> >> is about playing golf and hanging out with your business peers. Being >> >> >> black or female doesn't have any impact on playing golf or being a >> >> >> business peer. Witness the fact that the CEO of the Master's largest >> >> >> sponsor (IBM) is female. Lucille Roberts is about a space for women >> to >> >> >> work out where they don't feel like they are being judged by men. The >> >> >> gender of the people at the facility is obviously directly related to >> >> >> the mission, the intent of the organization. Then there is the issue >> >> >> of comparables: Augusta is the only private club of its type that >> puts >> >> >> on an event the caliber and exposure of the Masters. It isn't like >> you >> >> >> can easily say, "oh, you can get just as high profile a golf and >> >> >> networking experience at club X, Y and Z". On the other hand, you can >> >> >> easily get the same quality gym experience (as a guy) or better at a >> >> >> large number of facilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Judah >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Augusta is a private club. They can allow whomever they wish. >> Members >> >> >>> pay dues to set the rules. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Not sure how its any different than, http://www.lucilleroberts.com/ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I would love to join the VFW, but, I don't meet the membership >> >> requirements. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Cameron Childress < >> camer...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Brian Thornton < >> >> br...@cfdeveloper.com>wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> It's commonplace to know that the president is very careful to >> decide >> >> >>>>> what to speak on and what to dodge and what not... >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> "We've kind of passed the time that women should be excluded from >> >> >>>>> anything," Carney said. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Obama should join August National, then he will be one of >> >> >>>> 300 individuals who are permitted to vote on allowing women to >> join. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> -Cameron >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> ... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349586 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
